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Sensible gun control

Just to add to the fire. I can see Mexico from my house. Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws there are. But they only seem to apply to ordinary citizens. The cartel openly display guns and shoots who they please. I will take the 2nd amendment any day over their system.

I won't set foot in Mexico again.
 
I would also like to say: back in the 90's i had holiday parties, these were a little more then the average, we have strippers, hookers
and private areas in my shop. the strippers were set upon a lift with plywood & carpet. we had beer & liquor. i told everyone who came
no drugs, no guns and if the girls say no they mean NO. Now what i always knew was when you mix guns, naked women & alcohol
you can have problems but no one got upset that i told them absolutely no guns allowed or I will throw them out.
never had any complaints or problems and several of the guests were cops and such.
 
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Tombstone Sue said:
Just to add to the fire. I can see Mexico from my house. Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws there are. But they only seem to apply to ordinary citizens. The cartel openly display guns and shoots who they please. I will take the 2nd amendment any day over their system.

I won't set foot in Mexico again.
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Tombstone is an interesting place with a colorful history of frontier justice. I can see why you might feel the way you do.
 
Fatcycledaddy said:
I have car insurance and hope to never use it, I have homeowners insurance and hope to never use it, I have a spare tire and hope to never use it, I have health insurance and hope to never use it, I carry a gun and hope to never use it.

So why do you have a key for your Spyder and locks on your doors? Because someone might try to steel the Spyder and rob your house, you have them for the possibility that someone might try to take something from you.

Same reason I carry, I value my life and I carry just in case someone tries to take it from me!

So in my opinion, your point is flawed.
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the difference in the way i see it is guns would not be part of basic insurance. you get a car, you get insurance, you buy a house, you
get insurance, you move to a crack neighborhood you get a ............. gun.
but why not have bomb shelter, large umbrella policy, no more cheap tires for the spyder too.
Bob can you tell us how many people really have proper insurance for their needs?
 
UtahPete said:
Exactly. So, why the obsession with carrying a gun to protect against an almost non-existent threat?
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Again, because I have the right and choose to.
Why not rant against drinking, or driving, or any of the other things listed?
I don't get on here and rant when people talk about drinking alcohol, even though I choose not to and never have. Why. because I have the respect for them that they can make that choice for themselves, I choose not to and leave it at that.

As far as your comments about native Americans, my great grand mother on my moms side and great great grandmother on my dads side were full blooded native Americans.
In this countries history there are a lot of things that I personally do not like or wish were done differently. The way the native Americans were treated, the Chinese when they were building the railroads were killed by the thousands, the enslavement of the black man, and may other things.
I was not around when those things happened and had no part in them, I could and can not change that in any way, but that does not change the fact that USA is one of the most giving countries in the world and I am proud to have the right to live here.

The difference between the USA and most other countries is that when the USA defeats a country, we help it get back on it feet, we rebuild it, we do not enslave it as so many other countries have and do.
 
Fatcycledaddy said:
Again, because I have the right and choose to.
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Exactly. It's a choice. It cannot and does not need to be supported by reason.

The basic premise in marketing is that people make choices based on emotion and then use reasoning to support their choice, not the other way around. People choose to carry guns based on irrational emotional impulse, not reason. That is the only point I have been trying to make - your choice is purely irrational and does not need to be justified at all.

So I have been jumping in to dispute nonsensical claims about the rationale behind carrying a weapon 24/7, not questioning your choice or right to carry.
 
Well guys, it has been fun!!
Now it's time to get back to reality and work so I am done on the subject.

Thanks for all the input and entertainment with all of the opposing views. nojoke
 
Breaking news; Supreme court decision on 2nd amendment rights

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-handguns-california-20170626-story.html

The Supreme Court has rejected a major 2nd Amendment challenge to California’s strict limits on carrying concealed guns in public. The justices turned away an appeal from gun rights advocates who contended most law-abiding gun owners in San Diego, Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay area are being wrongly denied permits to carry a weapon when they leave home.

The justices let stand a ruling from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals which held last year that
“2nd Amendment does not preserve or protect a right of a member of the general public to carry concealed firearms in public.”​

 
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UtahPete said:
Exactly. It's a choice. It cannot and does not need to be supported by reason.
The basic premise in marketing is that people make choices based on emotion and then use reasoning to support their choice, not the other way around. People choose to carry guns based on irrational emotional impulse, not reason.
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So based upon your marketing premise: people are just as likely to make a decision to not carry, that is based upon their fears....
...And they will then shop for the statistics that will support their irrational decision.
 
hey just to set the record straight i am native american, i was born here like my parents and grand parents, i don't know my relatives
beyond that but i do know that 40,000 years ago my relatives came from the continent of africa so perhaps that makes me
african american
 
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN said:
hey just to set the record straight i am native american, i was born here like my parents and grand parents, i don't know my relatives
beyond that but i do know that 40,000 years ago my relatives came from the continent of africa so perhaps that makes me
african american
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Actually, native americans came over the Bering Straits from Mongolia.
 
:shocked: So THAT's where the entire "Russian Collusion" mess started! :gaah:

:joke::joke::joke:

(My Missus is 1/4 Blackfoot, and a smattering of Iroquois...)
 
Bob Denman said:
:shocked: So THAT's where the entire "Russian Collusion" mess started! (My Missus is 1/4 Blackfoot, and a smattering of Iroquois...)
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More of a 'collision' if you ask me!

When I was touring Russia in '93 I spent some time in Siberia (Ulan Ude) and was startled to discover how interesting the human history of that place really is. White Russians are relative newcomers and relatively few in number. A very large proportion of the residents are descended from the nomadic mongolians (think Genghis Khan) with features very much like our native americans. I watched native 'cowboys' driving cattle across the great plains of Siberia exactly like a scene from eastern Oregon (where I was living at that time). I visited a historic heritage site where Russian frontiersman log forts just like our log forts were being preserved. In another part of the site was a native village complete with bark and hide teepees and a shaman lodge.

I could go on, but you get the idea.
 
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