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Se5???

I love the SE5 on my 09GS of 24,000 Miles AND I really like the SM5 Manual on my New Rt.
The Manual seems smoother when you downshift and let out the clutch (To Me), the Only Part with a learning curve ws getting
the right amount of pressure from 1st to 2nd and I will admit I hit neutral MORE than once But I,m an Old Pro Now and Love the Standard
plus it was Less Expensive (Cheaper?)!:yikes:
 
Do you really want you spouse to learn how to drive it and the posibility that she will leave you home while she takes your Spyder shopping ?????? For this reason alone, you should choose the manual transmission. :roflblack:
Randy...Randy...Randy... :roflblack:

When they decide to gang up on one of us to show the World just how powerful women can be; my guess is that you'll be their example! :lecturef_smilie:
 
We ordered our 2010 RT semi becasue it is my wife's bike and I didn't want to worry about her stalling the :spyder2: at a stop sign, or on a slight grade if she has to come to a stop. She loves it and calls it mindless riding, I love it casue I don't have to worry about her. We have a 2013 on order and th e semi is the only option on the limited.
 
SE5 all the way, for a number of reasons.

Yes, I can drive & ride a clutch. But why?

I love a good MT on a car. On a bike? Meh. I already have to do nine other things on a bike, why add a tenth thing to focus on?

That's the beauty of the SE5-- it's idiot-proof. And it's great fun, in a different way than a manual.

Plus, I'm an urban rider, and riding the clutch in stop-and-go traffic is a PITA.

That all said, the biggest reason that I got an SE5? The Spyder offers a semi-automatic transmission, so why NOT get it?

Read that again: why NOT get it? You have a vehicle uniquely offered with something really neat and fun... so why not get it? Why deny yourself something that makes the Spyder different than anything else on the road?

If I want to clutch and shift, I can get a zillion other bikes. If I want to dispense with shifting altogether, I can get a scooter.

But in the Spyder, I can get something that allows me a fantastic amount of control-- all I really need, in fact-- and yet take away the pain, frustration, and distraction that-- yes-- sometimes comes with a clutch and pedal.

BTW, as far as the technical issues are concerned, I've never had an issue on my RS. The SE5 finds the gearing far, FAR better than I ever have on a bike. You gotta be, like, Rossi or some other GP dude to do better than the SE5 on anything approaching a regular basis. :joke:
 
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The computer on the SE does not control clutch engagement. That is strictly a mechanical function. The computer may keep you from shifting at too low an rpm, and it helps control the point of automatic downshift, but the clutch engagement is mechanical in nature.

I agree with what you are saying but, the rider has no control over the quality of the shift. The shifts are also erratic in nature. Sometimes they will be crisp and clean. Other times they will be very mushy and lacking in a clean engagement. Temperature seems to have a great deal to do with the quality of the shifts. When the temp was hot here and we had been riding for extended periods, the shift quality went totally in the tank. I even had down shifts where the clutch did not re-engage. One time it got so bad that it warranted several days at the dealer during which time they found nothing wrong. I believe I got the standard answer that mine is one of the better shifting bikes they have ridden. Since the temps have cooled off, the shift quality has consistently been better.

As an aside, I really do like this bike. Since we got it this spring, we have put almost 7000 miles on it. My main issues are not with my bike but, with BRP. I really don't feel that they have done a very good job of making a bike that can stand up to normal use. They won't answer simple questions such as how the access the battery on my RT or take responsibility for production issues like battery connections that seem to plague them. They also don't seem to keep their dealers up to speed on changes and/or implementation status.
 
Some SE owners report that they use blocks to keep the SE Spyder where they left it. :roflblack:

SE parking brake neglect/failure= SE Spyder rolling down hill= SE smashing into things= very sad SE owner !!!!!!!


Don't be a sad SE owner........ :roflblack:
Signed,
SM owner
 
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SM5 for me

"That's the beauty of the SE5-- it's idiot-proof. And it's great fun, in a different way than a manual."

"Well not being and idiot and liking the control the SM5 gives me it was an easy choice, and seeing on here the problems had by the semi-auto and the fact its a 750 mile round trip to my nearest dealer it was a better option for me but as has been said its really up to you.Test ride and then choose.
cheers mick :doorag:
 
Some SE owners report that they use blocks to keep the SE Spyder where they left it. :roflblack:

SE parking brake neglect/failure= SE Spyder rolling down hill= SE smashing into things= very sad SE owner !!!!!!!


Don't be a sad SE owner........ :roflblack:
Signed,
SM owner

That must be a problem that PE GS owners suffer with; RT parking brakes are electronically deployed and, (Knock on Wood!), So far; so good! :thumbup:
 
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