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Se5???

:) That's like asking "Which is better, day or night?" It is a personal preference. Lots of people prefer one, and lots the other. The SE is not fully automatic, it is electric shift (with some additional features). You just hold the throttle and push the button to shift up, just push the button to shift down, too...or the Spyder will do it for you. The manual is like any other manual shift motorcycle...hand clutch and foot shift. It's easy, too, once you get the hang of it. If you haven't ever used a standard shift car or bike, you will probably be more comfortable with the SE. If you are used to shifting, the SM will make you feel right at home.
 
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Can't say which is better, but...

I have never rode a motorcycle before and all of my cars/ trucks have been automatic. So I have very little experience with a clutch which is why the semi-automatic transmission appealed to me(though to be honest, I thought it didn't require any shifting at all before I actually did a test drive). With no experience what so ever I picked up on when to shift the gear up. Later on I got advice on this site to shift up at 4000 rpms to get a smoother shift. The spYder will down shift for you but I am slowly learning when to do that as well. As one of the least experienced riders I can assure you that shift gears on the se5 will be something you can pick up pretty quickly.
 
which would be easier for you ?

what kind of riding do you do ?

I really enjoy my SE5 , as I am sure guys like there SM5 .

I have physical issues that does not allow me to choose . If I did not I would of probrably gotten the SM5 , and I would of never thought the SE5 would be so much fun -- I now would prefer the SE5 over the SM5 .

with the paddle shifter you can up shift and down shift as you please .

Ride both and see which is best for you . good luck with choosing
 
NancysToy said:
:) That's like asking "Which is better, day or night?" It is a personal preference. Lots of people prefer one, and lots the other. The SE is not fully automatic, it is electric shift (with some additional features). You just hold the throttle and push the button to shift up, just push the button down...or the Spyder will do it for you. The manual is like any other manual shift motorcycle...hand clutch and foot shift. It's easy, too, once you get the hang of it. If you haven't ever used a standard shift car or bike, you will probably be more comfortable with the SE. If you are used to shifting, the SM will make you feel right at home.
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Thank you very much!!
 
se5 ??

The SE5 is a no brainer....my wife said first time on her's she reached for her seat belt, it was so much like a car...lol
Me I ride a 1800cc Goldwing but her spyder is a blast !!

Thanks
 
As they said: it is pretty much a matter of preference. I have had four :ani29:'s and all but one were SE5's. When I got the first :spyder2: the SE5 was not an option. I don't miss the manual shift on the original :ani29: or on the 35+ two wheelers that I have owned over the years.
 
I have been riding two wheelers for around 35 years and love the SE 5 models that I have owned, an 09 RS and now a 2012 RT-S. if you ride in a lot of traffic the SE model is a godsend. If you ride in open road conditions it's really just a matter of choice.
 
I love my 2012 RT-S SE5!! Although, I don't think I would be as comfortable on a SM, but that's my opinion. Riding in town, stop and go traffic, is really easy!! It's only a decision you can make, but I really love mine!!

Dee
 
I've ridden manual shift for about forty years. I agree with all the comments made thus far. I've opted for an SE this go around with my new spyder. Someone pointed out to me that were I to become incapacitated and my wife was with me, she would have a much easier time getting the spyder back to "home base" with the semi versus manual. I also chose the semi so that she can enjoy riding the spyder.

Chris
 
There is an upside to owning a SM over a SE........... With an SM your spouse or partner might not be able to operate it and you will remain in control of your relationship. You will be in charge in your house of all things Spyder related.

Do you really want you spouse to learn how to drive it and the posibility that she will leave you home while she takes your Spyder shopping ?????? For this reason alone, you should choose the manual transmission. :roflblack:
 
I have an RT Limited and, I do believe that if I had it to over again, I would go with the manual transmission. If you search this forum, you will see endless issues with the SE5 and clutches. The real issue for me is the need to do what the computer insists you should do. In many situations, I don't believe that the computer is being smarter than I would be. I have ridden heavy bikes for many years and many thousands of miles without clutch or transmission issues as have many of the people here that are riding SE5s and are now having clutch issues. I don't believe that BRP has the SE5 figured out as yet and that they are using their customers for their field testing. Then, they accuse the customer of causing the problem when the computer controls everything.
 
rcturner said:
I have an RT Limited and, I do believe that if I had it to over again, I would go with the manual transmission. If you search this forum, you will see endless issues with the SE5 and clutches. The real issue for me is the need to do what the computer insists you should do. In many situations, I don't believe that the computer is being smarter than I would be. I have ridden heavy bikes for many years and many thousands of miles without clutch or transmission issues as have many of the people here that are riding SE5s and are now having clutch issues. I don't believe that BRP has the SE5 figured out as yet and that they are using their customers for their field testing. Then, they accuse the customer of causing the problem when the computer controls everything.
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The computer on the SE does not control clutch engagement. That is strictly a mechanical function. The computer may keep you from shifting at too low an rpm, and it helps control the point of automatic downshift, but the clutch engagement is mechanical in nature.
 
SE is great. It is so easy. I've owned my bike (RS) for almost a year and a half and I've never had a problem.
 
I called a few dealer service departments before I bought mine, because of all of the reported problems on this site and they pretty much talked me out of the SE. I then checked their inventories to see if they had an overabundance of SMs and trying to offload them, but that wasn't the case, so I played it safe and went with the SM. The problem posts with the SEs continued for a while, but really settled down after BRPs last update, changing shift points, so that's been a plus. You'll still read about stalling and slipping or sticking clutches, at which point you have little control over. These issues don't plague the SMs, so you may need to test your tolerance for potential issues and how comfortable you may feel with them. I'm in no way bashing the SEs or trying sell you on SMs, but there's a touch more than convenience to determine which way to go. I opted for additional simplicity.

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