SE5 not shifting

[NancysToy]

I have installed a home-made ground wire from the coils to the oil radiator mount bolt.

Do I really need to install the second one to the grounding lug on the frame?

My 2009 SE5 so far (+/- 450 miles) hasn't stuck in any gear, but when started in the mornings, and after backing out of my garage, it takes some fiddling to get it to go into first gear, and sometimes it even shows an 'E' reading in the dash.

This is not repeated after being warmed up / ridden for some time.

Suggestions? :dontknow:

You do need the second ground wire, to the frame. The oil cooler is mounted to the oil tank bracket, same as the coil, so it is rubber mounted. The frame wire is the more critical of the two...it is the only one actually grounded.

The "E" problem sounds like a bad GPS (Gear Position Sensor), or bad calibration. Out of whack until it warms up. Have the dealer calibrtate or replace it.

 

[Pilo]

You do need the second ground wire, to the frame. The oil cooler is mounted to the oil tank bracket, same as the coil, so it is rubber mounted. The frame wire is the more critical of the two...it is the only one actually grounded.

The "E" problem sounds like a bad GPS (Gear Position Sensor), or bad calibration. Out of whack until it warms up. Have the dealer calibrtate or replace it.

Scotty:

Yesterday night, after removing all the side-forward tupperware in my SE5 and looking at the main ground lug..., I had second thoughts.

But then, when I finally managed to slip my hand behind the frame member to verify if the lug-nut was tack welded (it wasn't...) I decided not to risk losing time, knuckles' skin, and perhaps the even nut, by trying to hold it with some kind of tool small enough to fit in that recessed space.

After verifying the location of the rubber 'grommet', I chose the coils' plate mounting-bolt located directly above them. With a small wire brush I removed a little bit of paint from the back of the mounting bracket plate (which is welded to a tubular frame member) and installed a much shorter ground wire.

Started the SE5 and reversed it out of my garage for a test. No sticking in reverse, no fiddling, no 'E' reading on the dash. Just went into 1st. at the first jab of the paddle. :clap:

I'll will ride and test it today more throughly and will report back IF any snafus occurs.

Saludos, Pilo

P.S: 'bjt' said that I can run into trouble with having multiple ground points, because sufficient resistance between multiple "grounds" can cause problems, but I'll just see if anything ever develops. The SE5 common ground lug is definitely NOT readily reachable. :shocked:

 

[brutus450]

LAMONSTER - Earlier in this thread you asked why run TWO ground wires, since ground is ground. Those of us who did the mod ourselves or had a dealer do it used two wires because that's exactly what BRP says to do and we want our Sypders fixed. But its a really good question! BRP...if you are reading these forums, why TWO ground wires to the same point on the coil?

sometimes ground IS NOT ground. Two points of ground can compensate for the ONE correct ground. I used to install high end car stereos and you better make sure you get the right gounding point or the stereo will get BAD interference (engine noise - you hear high pitch and varies with engine speed). If you try all different ground points oround the vehicle and still get siganl noise, you can try TWO points of ground and sometimes is takes out the interference!

 

[brutus450]

Could be they decided to get the ground to the ignition coil bracket and, from there, to get ground to the oil cooler mount. That way you use only about 30 inches of wire instead of 50 inches of wire. :dontknow:

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Also a good point, the shorter the ground wire(s) the better it will be. Less wire to pick up interference

 

[Extracool]

Gear lock up SE5

Have all of the computer downloads plus the grounding of the coil by Can-Am dealer.Spyder locks up in gear or does not know to downshift,have had the steering and transmission update loaded several times but the program keeps dropping out, also had a new powersteering unit installed,BRP says probably need S.A.S. the sensor under the powersteering unit,have that on order, hoping for the best this time:chat:

 

[Sally02430]

2008 SE5 shifting...

'Never had a problem....4500 miles since April. OHH....Motorkote in the oil! That's my secret. Now if I could get into the RT.....Hmmmmmm:chat:....:chat: