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Rotating Front wheels

Pennyrick

Pennyrick

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Recently I had our Venza serviced and the tires rotated. That got me to thinking about our two Spyder RT's.

I talked to a tech at another dealership (I was just browsing around) and mentioned rotating the front wheels on the Spyder and he told me that could not be done as the tires are directional.

I haven't talked to my regular Spyder dealer yet but I can't find arrows on the tires that say they are directional.

Was this guy right?
 
Double Trouble said:
Recently I had our Venza serviced and the tires rotated. That got me to thinking about our two Spyder RT's.

I talked to a tech at another dealership (I was just browsing around) and mentioned rotating the front wheels on the Spyder and he told me that could not be done as the tires are directional.

I haven't talked to my regular Spyder dealer yet but I can't find arrows on the tires that say they are directional.

Was this guy right?
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The tires are directional. However, you can rotate them but the tires have to be removed from the rims. If you look at the tread pattern on a correctly mounted tire, water will be pushed from the center to the outsides. If they are reversed water will be pushed to the center of the tire causing the tires to easily hydroplane on wet roads.
 
Y Rider said:
The tires are directional. However, you can rotate them but the tires have to be removed from the rims. If you look at the tread pattern on a correctly mounted tire, water will be pushed from the center to the outsides. If they are reversed water will be pushed to the center of the tire causing the tires to easily hydroplane on wet roads.
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So basically you switch the rims from on side to the other but you remove the tires from the RIM and flip them at the same time? If I go to my car guy and ask him to do this for me, will he understand what I am saying? I would rather go to the local tire shop (small town here) and have them do the work. Cheaper and not as far to travel.

Help!
 
You switch the tires from side to side, as long as the tires are going the right direction, it's good.

john
 
Remount

Every oil change, it's off to the tire place to dismount both front tires and remount so direction is preserved, but tires are now on the opposite sides. Before I began this practice, I was looking at some serious inside wear. Now, tires are wearing evenly and I expect another 5K out of them at least. Patrick
 
From the 2012 Spyder Manual.....

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Remember that when you unmount the tires then remount them on the other rim they also have to be rebalanced.

Cruzr Joe
 
Are these the original tires BTW? Many of the owners are going 19 in the front and 29 in the back. Also, make sure the tire dude puts the lug nuts on at 77lbs torque. Don't want to stretch or break those studs with their air gun. Pricey fix.
 
Cruzr Joe said:
Remember that when you unmount the tires then remount them on the other rim they also have to be rebalanced.

Cruzr Joe
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It is also very difficult to get a tire that has been remounted to run as smoothly as it did when mounted on it's original rim. BRPs suggestion to dismount and remount tires is very strange. If the alignment and air pressures are maintained, there should be no uneven wear except that which is caused by overly exuberant driving.
 
Pandy said:
Every oil change, it's off to the tire place to dismount both front tires and remount so direction is preserved, but tires are now on the opposite sides. Before I began this practice, I was looking at some serious inside wear. Now, tires are wearing evenly and I expect another 5K out of them at least. Patrick
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This is a very expensive, time consuming and unnecessary approach. If your front tires are wearing unevenly, you have an alignment problem. But 'rotating' them often you are simply spreading the problem evenly across the tread. You're still not getting the tire mileage you could get, and it's costing you (probably more than a new set of tires over time).

Not to mention that steering, tracking and stability are also compromised.

Get a laser alignment. You'll be way ahead on several different levels if you do.
 
rcturner said:
It is also very difficult to get a tire that has been remounted to run as smoothly as it did when mounted on it's original rim. BRPs suggestion to dismount and remount tires is very strange. If the alignment and air pressures are maintained, there should be no uneven wear except that which is caused by overly exuberant driving.
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:agree:. Never had a front end wobble issue until dealer rotated my front tires during my 14,000 mile service. Several folks on this forum who are a lot smarter than I am on tires, Spyders, etc do not rotate their Spyder tires...ever!
 
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Pandy said:
Every oil change, it's off to the tire place to dismount both front tires and remount so direction is preserved, but tires are now on the opposite sides. Before I began this practice, I was looking at some serious inside wear. Now, tires are wearing evenly and I expect another 5K out of them at least. Patrick
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Laser Alignment time
 
Rotation..!!

as stated if you are having uneven wear you have alignment problems. Rotation on a spyder is (imo) not worth the hassel and cost. On cars you do not dismount the tires and rebalance them. I have seen more problems crop up after doing this. If all is good both tires are wearing evenly reguardless of which side they are on. Now if you switch to car tires I guess it would just be swap and hope all goes well but easily reversable...as I see it..!!
 
Anyone know where I could get a laser alignment in Michigan ? Every place I check , don't do Spyders or have equipment .
 
BajaRon said:
This is a very expensive, time consuming and unnecessary approach. If your front tires are wearing unevenly, you have an alignment problem. But 'rotating' them often you are simply spreading the problem evenly across the tread. You're still not getting the tire mileage you could get, and it's costing you (probably more than a new set of tires over time).

Not to mention that steering, tracking and stability are also compromised.

Get a laser alignment. You'll be way ahead on several different levels if you do.
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:agree: Good post
 
I maintain 22 to 25 psi in my 2012 RT front tires and have kept them perfectly aligned. They now have 39000 miles on them and should last nicely without rotating until my 2014 arrives...
 
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