Bob Denman
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Not ON one...
But come off of it, and you'll slide, tumble, twist, tear, and collide with the darndest of things!
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Riding Naked!
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But come off of it, and you'll slide, tumble, twist, tear, and collide with the darndest of things!
Bob Denman
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But, where will you carry the bail money? :shocked:
PrairieSpyder
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Maybe they don't make armor for *all* the important parts.
bmccaffrey
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[QUyourself=AlEverett;835485]I wish this thread was named differently. Now I feel compelled to ride tonight with just my helmet and boots. Beware Chelan of a Yellow Sypder with a large naked man with his boots and helmet on tonight.:yes::yes::yes::yes:[/QUOTE]
Do yourself a favor and put a jockstrap or a cup on. Protect the important stuff:roflblack::roflblack:
Do yourself a favor and put a jockstrap or a cup on. Protect the important stuff:roflblack::roflblack:
robmorg
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When I took the advanced MSF course on my motorcycle, that is exactly what they recommended. In fact, you had to have all of those things or you could not participate in the "skills" section of the course. That being said, they were always quick to point out that that the only legal requirement in Pennsylvania was for eye protection. So, according to the MSF, in Pennsylvania it is indeed legal to ride naked except for goggles or glasses. :yikes:
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MouthPiece
Banged Up Member
I didn't slide all that much when the lady blew through a redlight and T-boned my spyder. I went up in the air and came straight down.
Chris
Chris
Dan McNally
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I ride in shorts, quite often in the heat . . . they are under my mesh pants! Actually, it is cooler to do that than wearing jeans.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
I remove most of the armor that comes in jackets or pants. I just don't want to look like the Michelin Man when I ryde.
Usually, the elbow pads are left in. I remove the shoulder and knee armor. Because I am short, my knees don't always jibe with the armor placement.
Good mesh jacket (I wear Revit Tornado) and a good wicking shirt is like just waring a regular t-shirt. Air just goes right through them. I'm ATGATT. Was coming back in my neighborhood the other night and came around a turn to find a car coming at me in my lane... Was just about to ditch the Spyder when they jerked back in their own lane. No thanks. Take all the help I can get.
robmorg
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ATGATT :hun:
OK, I'm still trying to figure out some of the acronyms used around here, so I hope you guys will be patient while I figure this one out....
...putting it into context, best I can come up with is... "All those God-awful tortuous togs". Am I close?
Bob Denman
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Oh! Sorry! 
pps:
All
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Gear
All
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pps:All
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All
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Time
Hawk
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Has anyone came off a sypder without being hit or running off the road? If that happens, road rash is not really the main concern. I think protective layers for road rash are more for 2 wheels where you could lay the bike down and skid down the asphalt. Jacket and pants are not going to do much for an impact. Only if you have a true back protector (not the foam in most jackets) is probably the only thing that might help, besides a helmet of course. Now with all that said, it will help some, just not much. Better to be safe than sorry. I almost always wear jeans and a jacket. Mostly to keep me from getting a sunburn. I always wear a helmet.
daveinva
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Edit: Hawk beat me to many of my points below, grrr!
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I suffer from a horribly inconvenient mix of OCD and guilt. :banghead: So, even when I don't want to ride ATGATT, I usually end up grudgingly doing so. All it takes is one thought walking out of the house to spur me back in to make sure I wear everything.
That said, my thoughts:
1. Mesh is priceless in the summer, but be aware that above a certain temperature (north of 90) mesh is self-defeating.
Meaning, if you're out riding for any serious length of time, the air moving through your mesh will wick away the sweat faster than you can produce it-- you'll lose the cooling effect of sweating, and before you know it, you're suffering from hyperthermia. That's why it's recommended when you're riding in REALLY hot weather, wear an enclosed jacket with the vents open and a cooling vest/wet shirt underneath. It may sound brutal to trade in the mesh for an enclosed jacket, but trust from both science and experience, you WILL be cooler for it.
2. While I'm normally a strong proponent of ATGATT on two-wheels for obvious reasons, on the Spyder I guess I'm more lenient. Not for myself-- again, OCD & guilt complex!-- but whereas I'll look at the t-shirt and shorts rider on a bike and think "Squids and Pirates," I don't have that reaction to Spyder riders.
I think this is largely because the risk curve is different on the Spyder. On a bike, you're always at risk of dropping it, even at slow speeds (*especially* so, given that you ride slow speeds more often than fast ones), thus it makes great sense to have gear head-to-toe.
On the Spyder, you can ride over gravel, potholes, edge traps, oil patches etc. all day long and you're not dropping it. You're also never putting your feet down. Those minor get-offs you risk on a bike you largely don't risk on a Spyder.
The problem on the Spyder, however, is that you still risk the MAJOR get-offs. At that point, what good does gear do for you? Still a great deal, IMO-- road rash is road rash, you NEVER want it-- but in the risk calculus, your odds of coming off a Spyder are far less than coming off a bike.
3. I don't know how anyone rides a Spyder in shorts. Even with all my Spyderpops gear on my RS, the thing still wants to cook my shins. Tall boots combined with pants-- whether my kevlar-lined cargo pants, my mesh, or my solid textile overpants-- always keeps me comfortable against the Spyder's natural heat.
4. I always leave the armor in-- and, in fact, upgrade the backpads (most jacket manufacturers ship jokes for back armor-- I'm looking at you, FirstGear). It makes me look like I work out. :joke:
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I suffer from a horribly inconvenient mix of OCD and guilt. :banghead: So, even when I don't want to ride ATGATT, I usually end up grudgingly doing so. All it takes is one thought walking out of the house to spur me back in to make sure I wear everything.
That said, my thoughts:
1. Mesh is priceless in the summer, but be aware that above a certain temperature (north of 90) mesh is self-defeating.
Meaning, if you're out riding for any serious length of time, the air moving through your mesh will wick away the sweat faster than you can produce it-- you'll lose the cooling effect of sweating, and before you know it, you're suffering from hyperthermia. That's why it's recommended when you're riding in REALLY hot weather, wear an enclosed jacket with the vents open and a cooling vest/wet shirt underneath. It may sound brutal to trade in the mesh for an enclosed jacket, but trust from both science and experience, you WILL be cooler for it.
2. While I'm normally a strong proponent of ATGATT on two-wheels for obvious reasons, on the Spyder I guess I'm more lenient. Not for myself-- again, OCD & guilt complex!-- but whereas I'll look at the t-shirt and shorts rider on a bike and think "Squids and Pirates," I don't have that reaction to Spyder riders.
I think this is largely because the risk curve is different on the Spyder. On a bike, you're always at risk of dropping it, even at slow speeds (*especially* so, given that you ride slow speeds more often than fast ones), thus it makes great sense to have gear head-to-toe.
On the Spyder, you can ride over gravel, potholes, edge traps, oil patches etc. all day long and you're not dropping it. You're also never putting your feet down. Those minor get-offs you risk on a bike you largely don't risk on a Spyder.
The problem on the Spyder, however, is that you still risk the MAJOR get-offs. At that point, what good does gear do for you? Still a great deal, IMO-- road rash is road rash, you NEVER want it-- but in the risk calculus, your odds of coming off a Spyder are far less than coming off a bike.
3. I don't know how anyone rides a Spyder in shorts. Even with all my Spyderpops gear on my RS, the thing still wants to cook my shins. Tall boots combined with pants-- whether my kevlar-lined cargo pants, my mesh, or my solid textile overpants-- always keeps me comfortable against the Spyder's natural heat.
4. I always leave the armor in-- and, in fact, upgrade the backpads (most jacket manufacturers ship jokes for back armor-- I'm looking at you, FirstGear). It makes me look like I work out. :joke:
sddinnh
New member
I've wondered about that myself. I'm guessing we don't have many statistics and that a lot of us dress to protect against road rash out of a long habit of dressing for two wheels.
PrairieSpyder
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Hawk and DaveinVA make good points. I've used them to justify going around town on my Spyder in shorts a few times. But being totally honest, I know I should wear the gear all the time. When curious people ask about riding a Spyder, compared to a 2-wheeler, I often joke that I might fall off, but I can't fall over. Even though the Spyder is more stable in that regard, we still are at the mercy of the other vehicles on the road.
Spyders are not seen any better than any other motorcycle. I don't know the stats, but I am guessing that street-bike accidents caused by encounters with cagers are more common than any other. So road rash is still a distinct possibility, and I know I should dress accordingly.
Spyders are not seen any better than any other motorcycle. I don't know the stats, but I am guessing that street-bike accidents caused by encounters with cagers are more common than any other. So road rash is still a distinct possibility, and I know I should dress accordingly.
Bob Denman
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:agree: :2thumbs:
robmorg
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Ah! Well, guess I was in the ball park then.Oh! Sorry!
All The Gear All The Time
You gotta cut me some slack. I never rode a dirt bike or a crotch rocket. I've always ridden an assortment of of Japanese cruisers and touring bikes before the Spyder. (I preferred radiators and drive shafts. That made me a "poser" to all my Hog friends, but I don't own a dew rag, a leather vest, or a sleeveless T-shirt that says, "If you can read this, the bitch fell off." :sour: )As for riding gear, I guess, you'd say I'm sort of a "MSFFS kind of guy". (MSF Fashion Statement) I wear the same outfit on my Spyder (all year) that I wore on my other bikes... Long pants (mostly jeans), long sleeve shirt, gloves, and a DOT half-helmet with a tinted eye shield that slides up into the shell for night. (Love night riding.) I carry a sweatshirt for when it gets cool, and a waterproof windbreaker for when it rains.
Like you, I've tried riding a few times without the helmet and gloves, but it felt weird, and I didn't enjoy it much.
Bob Denman
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No slack is needed...
We all come from varying backgrounds and experience levels. :2thumbs:
Everybody just needs enough space; to find what works best for them!
We all come from varying backgrounds and experience levels. :2thumbs:
Everybody just needs enough space; to find what works best for them!
