New tire, 28 lbs pressure, 2012 rt limited. Rear tire feels like it was starting to slide (jerk) on some sharp bends in the mountains.... what will cause it to do that. Never had the problem with my original tire...... My new tire is a Arachnid the new model that is supposed to be good.........
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Rear Tire sliding on sharp twisties
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BoilerAnimal
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We've got a Yokohama Avid Touring S on our RT and we've settled on 20 PSI on all three tires. Handles great.
SpyderAnn01
Active member
Was that your first time out on the new tire? I've never had an issue sliding with any new tire on my Spyders but they warn motorcycle riders to take it easy for a few hundred miles on new tires.
Bob Denman
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Anne's right: give them a chance to scuff off whatever they've been exposed to, before trying to find their limits.
Every new tire will be coated & impregnated with the mold release goop that they paint inside the tread mold before they do the last tread molding stage of tire manufacture so that they can get the tire out without damaging the tread sipes & grooves etc after the tread pattern is melted into the tread layer of rubber - and this goop is seriously slippery stuff, even if it's mostly wiped off!! Which is why, just like Ann said earlier, they strongly recommend that you exercise a little care & aim for smoooooth throttle, steering, & brake applications for about 3-500 miles or so after fitting new tires! :lecturef_smilie:
And yeah, it does take that long for the stuff to wear/scrub off - the only other 'non tire damaging' way to get it all off the tire properly is to shave a couple of millimetres or so of tread off the tire, & that'd be maybe 10-15,000 miles of potential tread wear you'd likely loose!!! For most, it's much easier just to drive a little carefully for a few weeks or so after fitting new tires, isn't it?!? If you really don't want to do that, you could stick your tires in an oven & cook them at about 200F for saaay 12 or so hours each (but that does tend to bake all the sticky stuff outta the tread compound & make the tire tread go permanently hard & inflexible & not much fun to drive on.... ever!! And it really pisses off the Missus too! :shocked: :dontknow
OR you could ask your tire dealer about getting some 'on vehicle dynamic balancing including tread shaving' done - once you find someone with the right gear who can do that for you, it's not usually all that expensive, & it has the added advantage of not only removing the mold release goop but also makes the tire perfectly round, & balances it fantastically at the same time!! Many top end super expensive cars get this sort of tire treatment as a matter of course, but it's not all that common unless the vehicle has 6 or more '0's' after a 'number bigger than 3 or so'..... but it can be done! 
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Ps: just in case anyone missed it in amongst those earlier posts, Arachnid tires are pretty much just copies of the OE Spec Kendas for our Spyders, & as such, they are almost as good..... but then, since the Kendas are crap anyway.... :dontknow:
And yeah, it does take that long for the stuff to wear/scrub off - the only other 'non tire damaging' way to get it all off the tire properly is to shave a couple of millimetres or so of tread off the tire, & that'd be maybe 10-15,000 miles of potential tread wear you'd likely loose!!! For most, it's much easier just to drive a little carefully for a few weeks or so after fitting new tires, isn't it?!? If you really don't want to do that, you could stick your tires in an oven & cook them at about 200F for saaay 12 or so hours each (but that does tend to bake all the sticky stuff outta the tread compound & make the tire tread go permanently hard & inflexible & not much fun to drive on.... ever!! And it really pisses off the Missus too! :shocked: :dontknow
OR you could ask your tire dealer about getting some 'on vehicle dynamic balancing including tread shaving' done - once you find someone with the right gear who can do that for you, it's not usually all that expensive, & it has the added advantage of not only removing the mold release goop but also makes the tire perfectly round, & balances it fantastically at the same time!! Many top end super expensive cars get this sort of tire treatment as a matter of course, but it's not all that common unless the vehicle has 6 or more '0's' after a 'number bigger than 3 or so'..... but it can be done! :thumbup:
Ps: just in case anyone missed it in amongst those earlier posts, Arachnid tires are pretty much just copies of the OE Spec Kendas for our Spyders, & as such, they are almost as good..... but then, since the Kendas are crap anyway.... :dontknow:
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jcthorne
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What caused it? Arachnid tires are crap. Possibly the only tire you could have chosen that could be WORSE than the cheap kenda its a copy of. Next time try a tire from a top tier tire manufacture rather than junk from third world countries. Quit looking for the cheapest black donut someone says will fit your bike.
PrairieSpyder
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I've noticed the same thing on my F3T but thought either it must be my imagination since I never noticed it on my RTS . . . or because I stay in my seat more on the F3 in the twisties than I did on the RT. Maybe the RT did it too, but I never felt it.
oldgoat
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That's a bit harsh. Some people want to replace their rear tire with a motorcycle rear tire, not a car one. As you well know there are only 2 to choose from (I think) the Kenda or the Arachnid
I've had both on mine & they gave no handling problems, but they wear out quickly. Used 28psi
I now have a Kumho on the rear. No handling problems & longevity to be determined. I use 19psi
HankD
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Using the word "Tire" in any thread title, subject line, or text body on this website is absolutely guaranteed to bring out extremely heated emotions...probably worse than Politics.:lecturef_smilie:
I'm not gonna use the word Tire in here anymore.
Oh crap, I just did. :yikes:
jcthorne
Well-known member
Neither Kenda nor Arachnid are motorcycle tires. They are SAE standard automotive profile tires with a severely reduced load rating.
Yes the conversations get heated. I get pretty frustrated with the contract or sales lingo being spewed as 'safety' reasons not to use better tires.
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ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
The manual suggests 300 - 350 miles or so for new brakes and tires--to get "broke in" properly. :thumbup:
RinconRyder
New member
This is important on both two and three-wheelers. Tire manufacturers put a release chemical on the tire during manufacture that enables the tire to "release" from the mold. It remains on the tire until worn off and can be slippery under certain conditions.
Take it easy for the first hundred miles or so on a new tire to ensure you wear that compound off before getting frisky.
Bob Denman
New member
Does this mean that you are "tired of tires"? :roflblack:Well, it may be 'trampled to death' but most of the threads I've seen on the subject are full of mostly subjective 'information' and emotion rather than facts.
I for one am still confused about the issue. Fortunately I don't have to replace a tire any time soon, but I am trying to understand the pros and cons and technical issues in the meantime.
Bob Denman
New member
There are no logic or facts: just emotions, and zealously guarded opinions... :shocked:
bcer960
Member
I am with you here. I read, and read, and read threads about tires as I just found a bald spot on my rear tire.
I just bought the Yokohama Avis S to replace it. My only hope is that the OEM one lasts till then, as that's the first apt I can get in to get it done.
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