question on this for tire repair kit to carry with...

[bone crusher]

How many roadside motorcycle flats have you repaired?

None...thank goodness...hope I never have to...but if I do, I want to have what I need...on that note, if someone else I'm riding with has a problem, I'd like to be able to help them as well...

 

[Smylinacha]

And boy those birds sure gotta be dummies to eat stuff like that!

This may be one of the silliest discussions I have ever heard. Green or not, hazardous, bird food??? I prefer a compressor for one simple reason, cartridges are a pain. You have to use several to fill a tire enough to ride, and then you may still need to seek out a compressor to finish the job. For the Spyder or my truck, a compressor is great. The bikes have no room for such luxuries, however, so CO2 cylinders still have a place. Use whatever fits your needs and makes you grin, folks.

 

[NancysToy]

And boy those birds sure gotta be dummies to eat stuff like that!

And have real big beaks! :roflblack:

 

[boborgera]

And have real big beaks! :roflblack:

After a lot of soul searching about the birds, I'm going to switch to
105 cartridge's and not use CO2 cartridge's any more.
Bet they can't swallow them.hyea:hyea: Besides there brass so they can be recycled.

 

[BLACK WIDOW]

This may be one of the silliest discussions I have ever heard. Green or not, hazardous, bird food??? I prefer a compressor for one simple reason, cartridges are a pain. You have to use several to fill a tire enough to ride, and then you may still need to seek out a compressor to finish the job. For the Spyder or my truck, a compressor is great. The bikes have no room for such luxuries, however, so CO2 cylinders still have a place. Use whatever fits your needs and makes you grin, folks.

 

[Way2Fast]

Another choice would be to join the American Motorcycle Association...AMA...with membership they provide free tows and road service for all your families vehicles, cars, trucks and bikes included. Plus you are supporting an organization that supports our rights.

 

[NancysToy]

Another choice would be to join the American Motorcycle Association...AMA...with membership they provide free tows and road service for all your families vehicles, cars, trucks and bikes included. Plus you are supporting an organization that supports our rights.

This service is only available free to AMA members who sign up online for AMA Champion, AMA Defender, AMA Hall of Fame or AMA Competition Plus memberships and choose annual automatic renewal of their memberships with a credit card. Standard memberships, renewed in person of by mail, do not get these benefits. I personally will not give permission to anyone to use my credit card number repeatedly without my permission each and every time.

 

[bone crusher]

Which brings us all the way back to my original point.....:thumbup:

Why do I NEED to see things YOUR WAY, when you have ZERO experience with the subject matter.....:dontknow:

If it's your opinion or assumption, that's great, but please don't TELL us repeatedly and forcefully, which is better, without ever having put your hands on either product.....:gaah:

It's not all about air pressure either.......Seems to happen with discussions about octane, Juiceboxes, GPS', mpg's, raingear, helmets, insurance, Iphones, or most any other thing.......

Just so ya' know, it's apparent to the experienced whether someone else speaks from experience or not......and when they don't it detracts from any credibility they might have on another subject.....nojoke

Now , I'm not telling you what to do here by any means, just offering my opinion and experience.......



BTW, ...........

I have been carrying a 'SLIME' compressor for my tires since about 2005........Carried a spark plug pump before that........:doorag:

Did I ever tell you that you need to see things my way? You just kinda jumped on that on your own...I never targeted you in a post, more so the other way around...the reason I started this thread was to get information from those who have a lot more experience...please read the first post...you might know a good deal about bikes, and that's a great thing, but I assure you I know a lot about many other topics that you probably know nothing about. You like to start things with people...that's cool...I can be facetious as well...I've always been interested by the bully mentality...in my study of psychology, it's usually due to some internal issue...but hey, we are who we are and we make do with what we have...

All of us on this board come from different places, experiences, backgrounds, etc...this is a sounding board for people to bounce ideas, suggestions, and the like back and forth. This is how us 'less experienced' riders learn. Thank goodness there are many here who help and offer assistance...I've learned a lot from many people on this board and I am more than grateful...most all people here are really cool!...it's made the learning curve much better...I've always been one to learn from others with more experience.

You mentioned other topics such as octane, helmets, GPSs, iphones, etc...wow, I never realized you really cared so much about me! Each of these topics will garner opinions and some are substantiated by facts, while some are just opinions. I have experience with many of these topics, in spite of what you might think. If someone asks for input on something, most will chime in with their thoughts...this is a normal thing. Just as is the case with politics, if you don't like what someone says/writes, just disregard it and move on. Why you insist on trying to comment on someone's opinion is beyond me...nobody's opinion is wrong...it's their opinion! You don't have to like it....

As far as your comment about 'not telling me what to do', your original interjection is an offense and tells of your intent. You aren't just commenting...

Okay, this is getting long enough...the easiest thing for you to do is just put me on 'ignore'...then you don't ever have to see what I post. We won't have to chat anymore about nothing important and eat up Lamont's server space.

 

[boborgera]

This service is only available free to AMA members who sign up online for AMA Champion, AMA Defender, AMA Hall of Fame or AMA Competition Plus memberships and choose annual automatic renewal of their memberships with a credit card. Standard memberships, renewed in person of by mail, do not get these benefits. I personally will not give permission to anyone to use my credit card number repeatedly without my permission each and every time.

I renewed my AMA membership by mail [check] for 3 years towing is included free.
Standard membership" I've been a member 13+ years.
Also Foremost gives me free towing.
I'm also:spyder: neurotic about credit cards only my wife gets mine:yikes:

 

[boborgera]

Looks like AMA wants $35 for it if you don't want auto renewal....No mention of 3 year plans here-

http://www.ama-cycle.org/roadride/motow.asp

What can i say? Last Sept. my renewal notice came in the mail with
an option to renew for 3 years in advance with FREE towing.
I renewed with a CHECK BY MAIL.
AMA= STANDARD
AMA= ROADSIDE
PLAN= D
Maybe because of my dynamic personally they wanted to keep me as
a member hyea: Or maybe they are trying to keep as many good looking
members as they can. Or maybe it was just good business at that time?
Like i said, What can i say?

 

[Firefly]

You guys got to be kidding. CO2 carttridges are not canisters or tanks,
They will not be all over the grass or filling dumps.
Just how offen do you get flats to begin with?

Starting to sound like a lot of RALPH NADER types are into Spyders.hyea:hyea:

Every little bit counts--- just like recycling pop cans.

For those with the BEST package on our Spyder--- that should cover roadside assistance shouldn't it?

 

[pathfinderjoe]

try aerostich.com

Even with Ride-On in all 3 tires I like to carry this and a small air compressor on long trips. I have purchased a lot of items from www.aerostich,com and have never been dissatisfied with the products.

 

[boborgera]

:helpsmilie:

Didn't mean for that to sound like I don't believe you. Just noting that they don't mention it on the website. Perhaps a phone call is required......

Sorry, Believe me I didn't mean my reply to sound like i though you didn't believe me. It's very hard for me get my thoughts across in type. I only use one finger on my left hand to type. I wish i could use 5 fingers it might make it easier for me?
I had an Uncle who had 6 fingers .














He lost the other 4 in the war

 

[bone crusher]

Every little bit counts--- just like recycling pop cans.

For those with the BEST package on our Spyder--- that should cover roadside assistance shouldn't it?

Good point... I have the BEST warranty, but like AAA, I wonder how long it takes for them to respond. I figured in a pinch it'd be good to have a good kit along, provided it doesn't take up too much space. The slime pump is only like 2 pounds and takes up very little space...this is a good thing. I guess the best thing to do is to call George Burns at Ride-on and get that in the tires...however, the guys/gals I ride with may or may not have kits and I usually have plenty of room to carry extra stuff with me...so, why not have it along just in case...

I'm probably doing an Iron Butt ride this summer...1000 miles in one day...fun, eh? I'm hoping the Spyder can do it...better yet, I'm hoping I can do it! ...will hopefully have the ride-on in by then...

 

[bone crusher]

Even with Ride-On in all 3 tires I like to carry this and a small air compressor on long trips. I have purchased a lot of items from www.aerostich,com and have never been dissatisfied with the products.

This is the kit that Lamont likes too...I put in the link to the other product as some claim that the plugs don't hold too well?? I'm not sure about cement or plugs or whatever...figured it was good to get as much info as possible...

The one you listed is popular as is the Slime kit that can be found on amazon for like 10 bucks...I already got the slime pump as per a recommendation from another member here...cool little thing...now for a small kit for the 'you never know' situation...

 

[NancysToy]

This is the kit that Lamont likes too...I put in the link to the other product as some claim that the plugs don't hold too well?? I'm not sure about cement or plugs or whatever...figured it was good to get as much info as possible...

The one you listed is popular as is the Slime kit that can be found on amazon for like 10 bucks...I already got the slime pump as per a recommendation from another member here...cool little thing...now for a small kit for the 'you never know' situation...

It is hard to compare tire repair in motorcycle tires and Spyder tires. Conventional motorcycle tires, especially the sport bike or sport touring bike tires, have a very thin carcass in the tread area, are curved, and have a relatively large amount of grooved areas, which are even thinner. There are strong sideways forces during turns. It is very difficult to get the string-type tire repair products to hold under these conditions. Just not enough contact area with the plug. Sometimes they won't hold at all in the grooves...too thin. It is not recommended that a repaired motorcycle tire be ridden farther than 50 miles, or so, to the nearest dealer for tire replacement. BMW even warns about this in their tire repair kit and manuals. (BRP isn't the only one with lawyers. ).

The Spyder tire is more like a car tire. Thinner carcass than a car, but flat, with a thicker tread. It should hold any type of plug fairly well. Experience from people who have posted online seems to bear this out, with many not replacing a repaired tire until it wears out. The Stop 'n Go mushroom plugs are the best available repair plug for either type of tire, IMO. The mushroom head helps seal despite slight movements at the puncture hole. Good for both Spyders and motorcycles...as well as your car. To my way of thinking, a preventative like Ride-On is preferable, and will eliminate an hour at roadside getting your hands filthy, but that doesn't keep me from bringing along a tire repair kit on my journeys.

 

[BLACK WIDOW]

Plugger

This is the kit that Lamont likes too...I put in the link to the other product as some claim that the plugs don't hold too well?? I'm not sure about cement or plugs or whatever...figured it was good to get as much info as possible...

The one you listed is popular as is the Slime kit that can be found on amazon for like 10 bucks...I already got the slime pump as per a recommendation from another member here...cool little thing...now for a small kit for the 'you never know' situation...

It would make sense to me that the plugs would hold better if subjected to lateral stresses (as in a motorcycle tire). This is the Kit that I ordered. I am wondering though (since no glue is used) if the plugs have to be lubricated to facilitate insertion. :dontknow:

Michael:doorag:

 

[ataDude]

...I am wondering though (since no glue is used) if the plugs have to be lubricated to facilitate insertion. :dontknow:

Michael:doorag:

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Yes. There is a small bottle of lubricant in the kit.

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[bone crusher]

It would make sense to me that the plugs would hold better if subjected to lateral stresses (as in a motorcycle tire). This is the Kit that I ordered. I am wondering though (since no glue is used) if the plugs have to be lubricated to facilitate insertion. :dontknow:

Michael:doorag:

It's strange to think that a plug, without any cement/glue will hold...how does the rubber bind to the tire? Interesting...

 

[bone crusher]

It is hard to compare tire repair in motorcycle tires and Spyder tires. Conventional motorcycle tires, especially the sport bike or sport touring bike tires, have a very thin carcass in the tread area, are curved, and have a relatively large amount of grooved areas, which are even thinner. There are strong sideways forces during turns. It is very difficult to get the string-type tire repair products to hold under these conditions. Just not enough contact area with the plug. Sometimes they won't hold at all in the grooves...too thin. It is not recommended that a repaired motorcycle tire be ridden farther than 50 miles, or so, to the nearest dealer for tire replacement. BMW even warns about this in their tire repair kit and manuals. (BRP isn't the only one with lawyers. ).

The Spyder tire is more like a car tire. Thinner carcass than a car, but flat, with a thicker tread. It should hold any type of plug fairly well. Experience from people who have posted online seems to bear this out, with many not replacing a repaired tire until it wears out. The Stop 'n Go mushroom plugs are the best available repair plug for either type of tire, IMO. The mushroom head helps seal despite slight movements at the puncture hole. Good for both Spyders and motorcycles...as well as your car. To my way of thinking, a preventative like Ride-On is preferable, and will eliminate an hour at roadside getting your hands filthy, but that doesn't keep me from bringing along a tire repair kit on my journeys.

You speak...I do! I'll get the Ride-on and go with that...get a plug kit, which is small enough to carry around, just in case whatever...or for the others I ride with...already have the slime mini pump, so I'm good to go with that...

I know it's been kicked around here on a few threads but you probably know off the top of your head...what quantity of Ride-on for the spyder? auto, not motorcycle, right? how much per tire (front vs. back)...thanks...

Will likely be doing an iron butt over the summer...don't want any issues on that ride!!