Question for the RT owners - what's a mint '19 RTL worth?

[old Timer]

Have an extensive background in the Motorcycle world, been riding something since the mid 50's and will be the first to admit that it is a sickness that can only be controlled by "In the Wind Therapy"..........

First experience with one was in 2010 when SWMBO and I visited a dealer in Arizona to look at one. We actually drove a new '10 White RT around for about 10 miles.

Did not buy one as I had just picked up a new BMW R1200GS.

..........However............Have not gotten over the experience as riding that '10 RT was excellent. As a result, joined Spider Lovers in 2011 and have been active ever since. Can't get over how enjoyable that ride was. A friend and his Wife came over to the house the other day on a F3S that they had had for several years and let me take it for a spin. Was blown away again. We have owned ATV's since the mid 80's so riding Spyders was no different. I turn 80 next month............and can't get over the fact that a Spyder is in my future......sooner or later. :thumbup: As I was riding home from a long ride in our Polaris Ranger yesterday at about 50, was passed by a shiny Blue old style RT, said what the heck, turned around at the first chance and followed him 3 miles to his home.....Surprised him. Nicest guy you could ever meet. He had a show room looking 19' Blue RTL that looked like it just came from the Dealer Showroom. Heated Grips, heated front and back seat, the hole 9 yards............And 755 miles..:yikes: Said that he doesn't get to ride it much but as his work is all consuming, keeps it under cover in his Garage and always on a Battery Tender. He finally said that he might be interested in selling it as his wife is wanting to do something else.

Does anyone have any idea what something like that would be worth, a mint '19 RTL with 750 miles?

 

[gkamer]

According to Kelly Blue Book, trade in value shows as $22,600 and typical listing price is $27,315. Of course that's not taking into account any modifications it may have. If those mods were things you would not have added yourself then you're paying for something you didn't want. But I think at the end of the day it's worth whatever you're willing to pay. And I wouldn't get too hung up on mileage. A well maintained, high mileage Spyder might be a better deal than a low mileage poorly maintained one.

 

[Arion]

I did a quick check of Kelly Blue Book, and this is what it had to say: a 2019 RT-L in "good condition with typical mileage" for Alamogordo's zip code has an average selling price (as opposed to trade-in value) of $27,315. Sounds like the one you're describing is well above good condition and well below typical mileage which, at least in theory, makes the KBB price a good starting point.

Our current Spyders are my 2015 RT-S and my wife's 2021 Sea to Sky, and we love them. I just turned 78 and "she who must be obeyed" is 71 and we ride more now than we ever have, thanks to our Spyders.

BTW, we lived at 568 Desert Lakes Road in Alamogordo for six years when my bride was stationed at Holloman, from 1998 to 2004. We really enjoyed the area and have thought of returning to the Tularosa Basin again. Good luck with your Spyder purchase.

 

[ARtraveler]

I sent you a PM. :bowdown:

 

[Knizar]

Old Timer

People come in different sizes, and so do Can Am products. When buying a Spyder you must like the seating arrangement before making the final decision. If you like riding 2-up or riding single, you or both must be comfortable. As of 2019 your options were RT or F-3, but now the new 2020+ RT or RTL comes into play. The late models have more seating room, especially riding 2-up.

The 2019 you have your eye on sounds to be an excellent machine, but realize that the warrantee has run out, and the OEM tires are already 4 years old, and it is considered an early model machine now.

To me that machine would be worth less than $20K. I love the room and the ride of a 2020+ RTL.
Don't buy until you have ridden a 2020+ machine first! The difference in price would be worth the ride.

JMHO, give or take 2 cents, :thumbup: Bill

 

[blacklightning]

I would not go over $20k for a 2019. Chances are it could possibly be out of warranty, unless they previous owner purchased the extended warranty before the original expired. If the warranty has expired, then you would be just as well off buying an older model with the 1330 engine. The only advantage the 2019 would have is a digital dash, which started in 2019. Good luck.

 

[Copperman]

Don't be fooled by the low mileage on a four year old Spyder. These machines are meant to be ridden. When they sit around and are garage queens, they sometimes have issues. Be sure to do your homework.

 

[Woodenfish]

Don't be fooled by the low mileage on a four year old Spyder. These machines are meant to be ridden. When they sit around and are garage queens, they sometimes have issues. Be sure to do your homework.

What kind of issues are known to you? I’m just trying to think what is different from one that sits and one that is regularly driven versus one that is stored seasonally in the winter months and can’t come up with it. Thanks for your input.

 

[old Timer]

I did a quick check of Kelly Blue Book, and this is what it had to say: a 2019 RT-L in "good condition with typical mileage" for Alamogordo's zip code has an average selling price (as opposed to trade-in value) of $27,315. Sounds like the one you're describing is well above good condition and well below typical mileage which, at least in theory, makes the KBB price a good starting point.

Our current Spyders are my 2015 RT-S and my wife's 2021 Sea to Sky, and we love them. I just turned 78 and "she who must be obeyed" is 71 and we ride more now than we ever have, thanks to our Spyders.

BTW, we lived at 568 Desert Lakes Road in Alamogordo for six years when my bride was stationed at Holloman, from 1998 to 2004. We really enjoyed the area and have thought of returning to the Tularosa Basin again. Good luck with your Spyder purchase.

A beautiful Home, we really like the weather here. My family has had a place since 1923 on the South Fork out of Hunt. I bought my first BMW from a dealer in San Antonio, in 1972, love that area.

 

[tntnj]

If it were me, I would offer between 17k no higher then 18K.
The reasons: You will need to replace the tires soon (check the date of the tires) You will most likely need a battery real soon. You would need to get the oil changed. And you may have rust in the tank and old gas in the tank (hopefully gas stabilizer was put in the gas). And last there are 21 and 20 RT's that being listed in the low 20's
Best Of Luck to you.

 

[DGoebel]

As a rider of both a '13 RTL and '18 RTL If you do buy the '19, then get the BRP Armrests, my SWMBO insists it's the best upgrade I put on either of our RTL's.

 

[K80Shooter]

If it were me, I would offer between 17k no higher then 18K.
The reasons: You will need to replace the tires soon (check the date of the tires) You will most likely need a battery real soon. You would need to get the oil changed. And you may have rust in the tank and old gas in the tank (hopefully gas stabilizer was put in the gas). And last there are 21 and 20 RT's that being listed in the low 20's
Best Of Luck to you.

Personally, I wouldn't offer anything and let the owner price it 1st, then I would do as you say. You never know what he might ask for it.

 

[old Timer]

Personally, I wouldn't offer anything and let the owner price it 1st, then I would do as you say. You never know what he might ask for it.

I totally agree........And there is always "If I could..... Would You".

 

[gkamer]

Personally, I wouldn't offer anything and let the owner price it 1st, then I would do as you say. You never know what he might ask for it.

That's a good point. You never know, his asking price might be lower than what you were willing to offer so you could both walk winners.

 

[blacklightning]

Personally, I wouldn't offer anything and let the owner price it 1st, then I would do as you say. You never know what he might ask for it.

That is always a tried and true method. I got wind of the price on my 2021 RTL and had to go look at it. When I questioned them on the price, the lady said, "Yeah, that is what I was asking for it, but now I will take $______ (price was $2000 less):shocked:. I was shocked and told her I would take it on the spot, and that was without even taking it for a test ride. She backed out of the deal the next day. But after stalking her for 4 months, she text me and said she was ready to sell, and did it at the agreed upon price. I could not be happier.

 

[Copperman]

What kind of issues are known to you? I’m just trying to think what is different from one that sits and one that is regularly driven versus one that is stored seasonally in the winter months and can’t come up with it. Thanks for your input.

When it sits for an extended period of time, hoses, seals and gaskets dry out, tires get flat spots, gas goes bad, things begin to rust, and the battery dies. Heck, there's probably a lot more things that can happen, too. You have to agree, a four-year-old Spyder with 755 miles doesn't get ridden very often. Often times you read on here someone buying an older, low mileage Spyder (thinking it's a bargain) and having many problems. It's always best to do your homework before buying an older, low mileage, anything.

 

[Bartender]

Knizar in his earlier post said don't buy until you have at least ridden a 2020 or newer model. I second that suggestion. I had a great pristine 2019 and loved it until a year after buying it I rode a 2021 RTL. The difference is unbelievable. I ended up trading for a 2022 new Sea to Sky and couldn't be happier. Don't understand what the difference is but do know that it is remarkable.

 

[SLICE]

to simply answer your question.... whatever your willing to pay.

offer him 15K cash. much easier to negotiate up than down

 

[ks4hcoach]

Hi Old Timer,

Beautiful R12GS!! Those are a really nice bike and the water cooled boxer motors are amazing with LOTS of smooth power in any gear at nearly any rpm. I have taken three different test rides and really liked the water cooled GS.

I have a 2021 RTL as well as a 2009 GS. Can Am has made immense improvements in the current (2020+) RT and RTL models. Stock, my RTL handles almost as well as the 2009GS with aftermarket sway bar and shocks, and WAAAY better than the stock GS did. The stock GS was not the best handling vehicle on the road...but the stiffer sway bar and better shocks made a huge improvement, which was helped even more by a good laser alignment.

Since you ride a R12GS, you are likely a taller rider. The 2020+ RT and RTL have quite a bit more leg room for both rider and passenger than the 2019 and older RTs, plus I really like the floorboard and brake pedal arrangement. I am 6ft 0in tall and the 2021 fits both me, with my wife as a passenger very well. Great wind protection with very little wind noise and buffeting. (The water cooled BMW GS I tested also had very little wind buffeting noise...while I could not adjust the windscreen on the older air cooled GS to get rid of the buffeting.)

After riding the 2021RTL, I took the 2019 or older off my list as the 2020+ was that much better for me and more comfortable and refined as well. And I was able to purchase mine in early 2021, before the supplies dried up and with a good price.

Good luck with your decision and ride safe.

Rod

 

[old Timer]

Thanks Rod, I think that I will hang on for a 20+ model. When the rite one comes along.......:2thumbs:...........I'll be ready to jump. Little nervous about the economy and what possibly is going to happen with the outlook with everything that is going on.


Remember........ that we are getting older and there is only so much time left to play, I'll be 80 next month and still going strong.