Question for the "gun" people here

[SNOOPY]

http://shop.scgunstore.com/product.laserlyte-lt9-laser-cartridge-532nm-intensity-3x-377-battery-33




Looks cool to me I may pick up 9mm version.:thumbup:

That is really cool :thumbup:


I'll take a 9mm also, need my address? Lol



Right now we're shooting plastic shot all over the yard, does nothing for actual gun training. :banghead:

 

[Tanshanomi]

I'm sorry; but I have to again state that there is absolutely NO effective replacement for learning what proper sight alignment looks like.
The laser will have you end up looking downrange for the dot, rather than keeping the sights aligned, and your eyes on a good sight picture...
(Sight picture: proper sight alinment; layed over top of the target...)

One more time: you DO NOT SEE A LASER DOT with a laser trainer. They train you to do exactly what Bob so passionately advocated. Most use an infrared beam you can't even see. You pull the trigger and instead of a round going off, the target system shows you where a bullet would have hit. It is actually quite effective, because you get used to pulling the trigger without anticipating recoil and bang.

The only advice I have with the LaserLyte is their trainer pistol has a trigger pull that might be totally unlike your weapons. Get the laser inserts and train with the weapon you'll be carrying.

 

[Tanshanomi]

Of course you are missing recoil recovery and you can develop soft wrist habit.

I have discovered that two different DAO pistols I own will FTE fairly regularly unless you give the trigger a firm, quick pull. Easing it back super slowly will cause stovepipes. A laser trainer doesn't get you in the habit of dealing with things like that.

 

[SNOOPY]

I have discovered that two different DAO pistols I own will FTE fairly regularly unless you give the trigger a firm, quick pull. Easing it back super slowly will cause stovepipes. A laser trainer doesn't get you in the habit of dealing with things like that.

Can you explain what you just said to those of us that don't have a clue what you just said?

:roflblack:

 

[Magdave]

Can you explain what you just said to those of us that don't have a clue what you just said?

:roflblack:

FTE= Fail to eject and that can cause a stovepipe if the shell starts to eject and gets caught pointing up when the slide comes forward. Some FTE do not eject at all and the next load will jam. DAO is double action only they have the same trigger pull every time. A Dual action usually has a hammer but it can be fired without the hammer pulled but the trigger pull after the first shot is a lot lighter and can be considered single action then (hammer pulled ready to fire )because the slide after the first shot cocks the hammer automatically. My P64 is like that I can pull the hammer or not as long as I have a bullet in the pipe. Police seem to be split on which to use.

 

[SNOOPY]

Okay I understand that.

Never heard it called a stovepipe before. :shocked:

 

[Bfromla]

I'm sorry; but I have to again state that there is absolutely NO effective replacement for learning what proper sight alignment looks like.
The laser will have you end up looking downrange for the dot, rather than keeping the sights aligned, and your eyes on a good sight picture...
(Sight picture: proper sight alinment; layed over top of the target...)

Exactly what I meant , hope I wasn't misunderstood, but proper training! Can't be beat


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[M109Dreamer]

In a time of need, it will happen so fast the last thing you want to worry about is hitting a button for a laser, then hope the battery works for it. Just use a good set of Trijicon night sights and proper training and ALOT of practice time. Because when the ***** gets real, it will be over before you know it and the last thing your gonna worry about is some gee wiz laser.

I live in AZ so we have a VERY lax weapon laws here. When we ride, I usually open carry a full size 1911 .45 and the wife carries her .22 Sig.

But no matter what you choose, range time is key. Learning to draw, aquire, breathe and squeeze the trigger in the clothes and different positions doesnt matter for all the other gee wiz stuff that hits the market.

 

[Gray Ghost]

As the OP has pointed out, he is not looking for a laser sight. A system like he is referring to is often used to supplement range time. The Army uses the Engagement Skills Trainer to help hone skills against moving targets, etc. It is basically the same thing he is looking at except the system also uses compressed air to provide recoil as well. But that system and the system that the OP is talking about require using good sight picture, etc.