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Quest for More Power...

Raptor said:
Yes because we all know how wonderful today's fuel is... :shocked: Back in the day when I was running my '69 camaro I knew a guy who could get me Av gas and we would make a mix. Holy Shnikies, talk about go juice!

But the tune aspect I think just may be the show-stopper here. And the chatter I am getting is if anyone would know it would be ken at Evo. I mean I don't want to be like the master tuners who do the Hondas and Toyotas etc. and have to sit there with a laptop mounted just to run your bike! For me that takes all the fun out of it.

At the same time the turbo has it's own pitfalls. Waiting for the turbo to spin up is a pet peeve of mine! And the bearings wear out frequently.

I may just do what you did and go with the big-block kit. Keep it simple and make power at the core, not peripherally. Makes sense to me! :thumbup:
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Perhaps strip down an Aprilla and switch out your current components. :yikes: You may need fairly deep pockets for that scenario though.
 
Raptor said:
At the same time the turbo has it's own pitfalls. Waiting for the turbo to spin up is a pet peeve of mine! And the bearings wear out frequently.
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You do know the aerocharger is virtually lag-free, as for the bearings i'm not sure what turbos you've used in the past? But most of the time it isn't uncommon to see hundreds of thousands of miles before re-builds (the reason why nearly all diesels use turbos).

With all of that said, I still don't understand why we get stuck with barley over 100hp when the same motors elsewhere are making nearly double that!!!
 
WrapFactory said:
You do know the aerocharger is virtually lag-free, as for the bearings i'm not sure what turbos you've used in the past? But most of the time it isn't uncommon to see hundreds of thousands of miles before re-builds (the reason why nearly all diesels use turbos).

With all of that said, I still don't understand why we get stuck with barley over 100hp when the same motors elsewhere are making nearly double that!!!
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Hello! Actually I did not know that about the aerocharger. I guess I reeelly dated myself there with that spinup statement! :roflblack: I think I'm just really biased towards making core power and not all these impellars and plumbing and wategates etc. but I should not be so closed-minded. It might be worth chatting with one of those turbo boys and gathering some information about their setup.

As to your last statement, no truer words have been spoken. It's almost insulting that they hold us back like that with this great power plant and these sport bikes put out more with less.

I'm tellin ya now, If I could write code I would be re-writing the lame map that BRP has put into their ECU EPROM that's for sure!
 
2333 said:
I did the 1060 kit with high (13:1) pistons on 2333 over the winter. Also bought a new exhaust system and had it ceramic coated inside and out. Running it through a Leo Vince carbon can with the baffle removed. I have had to play with fuel pressure a bit, but it runs better overall if not as smoothly as stock. I would not do cams unless you want to do a whole new tune. Last winter there were not as many options for tuning as there are now. I may do cams and head work this winter.
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Any more info on the final outcome?
 
a german spyder-ryder made the change ( intake camshafts) by Amman (1200 euro - 1500 Usd) incl. dynojet-test
Test on the back-wheel (not on the engine)
original : 93,8 HP /86.26 Nm after the change
106,58 HP / 89,26 Nm


he writes it runs much better AND needs less fuel ...
http://www.motorrad-amann.de/index.php?id=2&L=1

forgot the modell you should look for

Power-Commander USB II .
RSV 2 Mille (Aprilia)
O2 illiminator
 
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chris56 said:
a german spyder-ryder made the change ( intake camshafts) by Amman (1200 euro - 1500 Usd) incl. dynojet-test
Test on the back-wheel 8not on the engine)
original : 93,8 PS /86.26 Nm after the change
106,58 PS / 89,26 Nm

he writes it runs much better AND needs less fuel ...
http://www.motorrad-amann.de/index.php?id=2&L=1
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Well this sounds encouraging. :thumbup: To increase engine power and improve efficiency is definitely a win-win. I would still love to make a serious move in this direction, but I just don't have the coin at the moment to do it. But this post has definitely perked my interest up again. Thanks for the post! I wonder if 2333 ever did his heads... :popcorn:
 
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