Potential Buyer - Time to Stay Clear of a Spyder

[Magic Man]

Thats some serious bad luck. Wouldn't that fall under the Lemon Law :roflblack:

No it takes 5 times to be under that.

But give him enough time I'm sure he'll make it. LOL :roflblack:


MM

 

[effgjamis]

Thanks for the input but no one has answered the question does BPR
back this spyders that have caught fire that really what I want to know. I can deal with the repairs and updates.
I think there have been seven fires and these are easy to find just google them.
But there is nothing about the company backing the product. It would be great if a representative spoke here in the forum and said yes we will back these Spyder owners whose bikes catch fire that was really what I was looking for.
I do appreciate the input and I will them directly and see what the response is. I was just hoping that a rep here could speak for the company
My local dealer sent me here saying this was a great place to get feedback as it is BPR hosted.
Thanks Again

If it is the fire that bothers you and wonder if BRP will replace the spyder due to fire, well one thing is certain you must not have heard of INSURANCE. I am more concerned about some caged idiot running into me than fire.

I may be wrong but I don't believe FORD replaced the SUV's that caught fire, even when it was determined that it was a defective part causing the brake fluid to leak. INSURANCE took care of the damaged vehicle, however, in some cases Ford did compensate some owners but not all.

 

[RCB]

HMM

This must be the funny owners, I had heard from the angry ones already LOL Well you are a passionate bunch thats for sure. All comments have been heard and appreaciated.
:roflblack:

 

[Firefly]

If you're getting over 10,000 on a rear tire---- you ain't riding it hard enough-----.

At 8,000 mine was near bald.

I'm at 12,000 miles now--- and will need new fronts around 15,000 miles. So the 2 for 1 rule seems to apply to Spyder tires.

 

[bone crusher]

If you're getting over 10,000 on a rear tire---- you ain't riding it hard enough-----.

At 8,000 mine was near bald.

I'm at 12,000 miles now--- and will need new fronts around 15,000 miles. So the 2 for 1 rule seems to apply to Spyder tires.

Yours was bald at 8k because it was catching fire too much...

 

[Sny]

So if it burns up, I'll probably still be paying on it afterwards - that kind of makes me nervous.

offtopic:

I think you can purchase GAP insurance with your loan. Not sure if you can add it to your loan afterwards.

GAP covers the difference between your insurance payout and the balance on the loan. It's usually not too expensive.

My wife and I are buying 2 spyders this week to take advantage of some of the August promotions, thanks for reminding me to ask about GAP

 

[mclaw44]

As another future spyder buyer (waiting to see 2010 model changes if any) its funny to read these post. I guess you really like and want a spyder or you can get stuck in this loop. I bet there isn’t anyone on this site that can tell you how many recalls or fires there have been with cars or other bikes or even how many recalls there should have been but never did. Look at past history, the rolling death trap the pinto (sorry pinto lovers), The Fiero SE or better know as the Smoking Edition LOL (Had one and loved it and yes it did burn to the ground or highway in the case) and more recent the Ford trucks. Did any one these companies stand behind there product, sure there were recalls but my insurance paid for my Fiero not GM. So really the bottom line is do you want to take a risk for what I think is a big reward of being a spyder owner or sit on the stoop as we all ride by.


Love all the comments make me want a spyder even more cant wait!!!!!

 

[RCB]

Spoke to BRP Today

Had a good and interesting conversation with a BRP representative today.
:chat:

 

[Dudley]

Had a good and interesting conversation with a BRP representative today.
:chat:

That tells us a lot. What number did you call? Who did you talk to? What did you find out?

 

[bone crusher]

As another future spyder buyer (waiting to see 2010 model changes if any) its funny to read these post. I guess you really like and want a spyder or you can get stuck in this loop. I bet there isn’t anyone on this site that can tell you how many recalls or fires there have been with cars or other bikes or even how many recalls there should have been but never did. Look at past history, the rolling death trap the pinto (sorry pinto lovers), The Fiero SE or better know as the Smoking Edition LOL (Had one and loved it and yes it did burn to the ground or highway in the case) and more recent the Ford trucks. Did any one these companies stand behind there product, sure there were recalls but my insurance paid for my Fiero not GM. So really the bottom line is do you want to take a risk for what I think is a big reward of being a spyder owner or sit on the stoop as we all ride by.


Love all the comments make me want a spyder even more cant wait!!!!!

You have a great approach. You'll love the Spyder and get a lot out of it. Those who want to try to make a mountain out of a molehill are better served buying a Pinto, I guess...

Anyway, until I see some clear documentation on causes of anything, they are just circumstantial and individual problems. This doesn't mean that something didn't go wrong, but to establish a pattern, we need many verifiable cases and the ability to reproduce the issue(s). This is not the case with the Spyders up to this point. :shocked:

 

[Firefly]

As another future spyder buyer (waiting to see 2010 model changes if any) its funny to read these post. I guess you really like and want a spyder or you can get stuck in this loop. I bet there isn’t anyone on this site that can tell you how many recalls or fires there have been with cars or other bikes or even how many recalls there should have been but never did. Look at past history, the rolling death trap the pinto (sorry pinto lovers), The Fiero SE or better know as the Smoking Edition LOL (Had one and loved it and yes it did burn to the ground or highway in the case) and more recent the Ford trucks. Did any one these companies stand behind there product, sure there were recalls but my insurance paid for my Fiero not GM. So really the bottom line is do you want to take a risk for what I think is a big reward of being a spyder owner or sit on the stoop as we all ride by.


Love all the comments make me want a spyder even more cant wait!!!!!

Actually you can go to the NHTSA website and look up anything about any vehicle you want. You will currently see about 10-12 total complaints about the Spyder. Most of them were steering issues - only TWO of them are fires.

 

[bone crusher]

Actually you can go to the NHTSA website and look up anything about any vehicle you want. You will currently see about 10-12 total complaints about the Spyder. Most of them were steering issues - only TWO of them are fires.

Most are steering and hopefully that issue is resolved...let's hope to NOT see more fire problems (other than those who have apparently had one)...

As far as the others who have had fires, it's odd that they have not reported them...makes me wonder if some actually occurred as a fault of the bike...if so, you'd think people would report them...

 

[mxz600]

Most are steering and hopefully that issue is resolved...let's hope to NOT see more fire problems (other than those who have apparently had one)...

As far as the others who have had fires, it's odd that they have not reported them...makes me wonder if some actually occurred as a fault of the bike...if so, you'd think people would report them...

Or they didn't happen at all. I have seen pictures of only three (but I could have missed some). Two that burnt to the ground and the one at the Dairy Queen (or whatever it was).

 

[RYDRS]

If my Spyder catches on fire, and I don't expect it too, I would expect my insurance company to pick up the tab, not BRP. Just my two cents worth. Oh ya, we LOVE our Spyder......:yes::yes::yes:

 

[Saluda]

Worried ? No, Aware of possibilities ? Sure. One of the best purchases we ever did. Would not hesitate to do it again or to refer people to the Spyder. Nothing is perfect, down the road I expect them to be even better.

 

[QuadManiac]

A quick look at some (perhaps flawed) logic:

NHTSA states that there are 69.33 motorcycle fatalities per 100,000 registered bikes per year or about 0.7 per thousand / year - 0.07%.

I don't know how many Spyders BRP has sold to date, but they recalled approximately 10,000 for the steering software update, so I'm going to use that number as my baseline. If the number is higher, then the stat goes down... so this would be worst case anyway.

10,000 Spyders on the road and up to 7 fires reported (maybe less) over TWO years equates to 0.35 per thousand / year or 0.035%.

From this loose interpretation, I'm twice as likely to be killed riding my bike as my bike is to catch on fire. Seems to me like I should be a LOT more worried about the fatality statistic vs. fire!

Conversly, from the National Lightning Safety Institute, I have a 1 in 280,000 (.00035%) chace of being struck by lightning in any given year... so I'm only 1000 times less likely to be hit by lightning than my Spyder is to catch on fire. Think I'll walk around with a long steel rod on rainy days to improve the odds; OR if i attach a long steel rod to my Spyder and ride around on nasty rainy days, do I increase the odds of BOTH lightning strike AND Spyder fire?

NOW, what can I do to improve my odds of winning the Lotto?

 

[bone crusher]

A quick look at some (perhaps flawed) logic:

NHTSA states that there are 69.33 motorcycle fatalities per 100,000 registered bikes per year or about 0.7 per thousand / year - 0.07%.

I don't know how many Spyders BRP has sold to date, but they recalled approximately 10,000 for the steering software update, so I'm going to use that number as my baseline. If the number is higher, then the stat goes down... so this would be worst case anyway.

10,000 Spyders on the road and up to 7 fires reported (maybe less) over TWO years equates to 0.35 per thousand / year or 0.035%.

From this loose interpretation, I'm twice as likely to be killed riding my bike as my bike is to catch on fire. Seems to me like I should be a LOT more worried about the fatality statistic vs. fire!

Conversly, from the National Lightning Safety Institute, I have a 1 in 280,000 (.00035%) chace of being struck by lightning in any given year... so I'm only 1000 times less likely to be hit by lightning than my Spyder is to catch on fire. Think I'll run around with a long steel rod on rainy days to improve the odds; OR if i attach a long steel rod to my Spyder and ride around on nasty rainy days, do I increase the odds of BOTH lightning strike AND Spyder fire?

NOW, what can I do to improve my odds of winning the Lotto?

I brought that point up but you just backed it up with the numbers...thank you...excellent points and excellent post! :yes:

 

[bone crusher]

Or they didn't happen at all. I have seen pictures of only three (but I could have missed some). Two that burnt to the ground and the one at the Dairy Queen (or whatever it was).

Something about those DQ drinks....hmmmmmm...

On that note, you never know who's posting what about what...and we already know of some good story tellers on this board (our departed Hollywood friend)...so, if the gov't only has two reported cases, that's all we can go by...everything else is speculation unless proven otherwise...and the best/official way to do it is to report it to the NHTSA.

 

[QuadManiac]

I brought that point up but you just backed it up with the numbers...thank you...excellent points and excellent post! :yes:

Yah, I thought something must have put that idea in my head... what I lose in originality, I gain in thoroughness.

 

[bone crusher]

Yah, I thought something must have put that idea in my head... what I lose in originality, I gain in thoroughness.

That was quite thorough...and it really helps to prove a point...so many accidents and deaths on two wheelers...many from just dropping the bike...and people are worried about what may (or may not be) a problem with the spyder that has affected, as we know right now, 2 or 3 out of 14,000 bikes? Ek gad...