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Rise in lease costs for motorcycles, safety concerns prompt cutbacks. Read http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080430/NEWS01/804300313
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Police motorcycle units should consider Spyder.
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daddydarko
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Short-sighted in my opinion. Here's what they should have done:
1. Lose the Harley's for a more reliable, affordable bike (ahem... :spyder
2. Convince insurance companies to acknowledge the safety benefits of VSS, TCS, ABS, and 3 wheels (no benefit in my state).
3. Modify Lamont's trailer into a patty wagon.
AWESOME
1. Lose the Harley's for a more reliable, affordable bike (ahem... :spyder
2. Convince insurance companies to acknowledge the safety benefits of VSS, TCS, ABS, and 3 wheels (no benefit in my state).
3. Modify Lamont's trailer into a patty wagon.
AWESOME
shunkmanitu
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Two major concerns using the Spyder for patrols.
1. You will loose the the advantage of getting through tight spots in traffic jams, accidents, etc.
2. Just gives them another reason to pull into your way during a high speed response to a call. "I thought he was going the other way!" That is the exact claim from a cage pilot that pulled in front of a concrete truck that has the delivery end of the mixer to the front over the cab. "Of course I saw it. It looked like the back of the truck going the other way." The fact that it was a four lane divided road and it was to her left on her side of the divider as she entered the roadway did not even give her a clue.
SS
1. You will loose the the advantage of getting through tight spots in traffic jams, accidents, etc.
2. Just gives them another reason to pull into your way during a high speed response to a call. "I thought he was going the other way!" That is the exact claim from a cage pilot that pulled in front of a concrete truck that has the delivery end of the mixer to the front over the cab. "Of course I saw it. It looked like the back of the truck going the other way." The fact that it was a four lane divided road and it was to her left on her side of the divider as she entered the roadway did not even give her a clue.
SS
I think they would make a great Police bike.... MUCH cheaper than what they use now... and perhaps more functional. The tight areas could be an issue... but not that big of one.
The perps might be inclined to pull over for them just to see what the heck they are! ;D
BTW.. It's paddywagon..... (think Irish) :doorag:
The perps might be inclined to pull over for them just to see what the heck they are! ;D
BTW.. It's paddywagon..... (think Irish) :doorag:
The Spyder may be good for highway patrol, but in busy cities, I suspect it will be greeted by M/C LEO's with a fair amount of suspicion. Why? SPACE. The Spyder has a huge footprint compared even to an Electraglide. M/C LEO's need to be able to weave in and out of traffic with as little effort as possible, including lane splits. The Spyder won't be able to maneuver any where near as easily in those conditions. Face it, the width of the Spyder does impose some limitations.
Smylinacha
Yellinacha
No!!!!!!!!!!!! We don't want cops to have them - how are we gonna get away?! :doorag:
VIspyderman
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I ride mine on the old Island Hiway from Fanny Bay to Courtenay on Vancouver Island every day. I usually travel at about 120 to 145 KM/H. This morning, after passing several cars, I stopped for my morning coffee at Starbucks. This car pulls up and the guy gets out. Nods at me and says... " you were going kinda fast this morning, weren't you?" I answered with, "I go kinda fast every morning, nothing special about todays ride." Of course this garnered all sorts of laughter from the folks I'm sitting with. So, what's my point? No way should law enforcement have Spyders. We should be the ones having fun on them. Which brings me to a question.
Has anyone gotten a ticket yet and how fast were you going? When I get one, I expect it'll be because I was doing 140 or so. I have 12500 KM's already and my average speed is 12500 km's divided by the 205 hours I have on my machine which equals... 60 KM/H.
Has anyone gotten a ticket yet and how fast were you going? When I get one, I expect it'll be because I was doing 140 or so. I have 12500 KM's already and my average speed is 12500 km's divided by the 205 hours I have on my machine which equals... 60 KM/H.
Rotaxrocket
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The Can Am is a wonderful bike for many things. Police Departments send their motormen to schools to get certified and learn police pursuits, riding formations, tactical deployment, and other disciplines during the class. The course is set up and accredited by FDLE standards. Due to the manueverability of the Can Am it would be impossible to take this class, which is required by departmental SOP's, and pass it. Aside from all that you wouldn't be able to ride and do formations during parades details Harley Davidson makes police departments a sweet deal on their lease motors. :cop:.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Yep, the days of police sidecars and Harley Servicars are long gone. Many of them ended up being relegated to parking enforcement, anyway. Not maneuverable enough. And forget radar duty, how ya gonna hide a Spyder? Gotta admit that the black and white would look nifty, though, with plenty of space for emblems.Rotaxrocket said:
-Scotty
Well... our own department had some mopeds for awhile and also those little golf-cart type things like the Amco parking people drive around.
If they can use one of those they can use a spyder.
Our department would be a great one to take a look into it as they customize and build all the special features for their own patrol cars down at the new city service building. They even build cop cars for other departments .
I'm sure there are places up north where they have snowmobiles and atv's.
If they can use one of those they can use a spyder.
Our department would be a great one to take a look into it as they customize and build all the special features for their own patrol cars down at the new city service building. They even build cop cars for other departments .
I'm sure there are places up north where they have snowmobiles and atv's.
Rotaxrocket said:
My department just hosted an advanced mc class and one of our motors did it on a Spyder that had been equipped with everything needed but a siren and radio. We don't have parade details here so that's not an isssue. I know there are several departments getting pricing information from my dealer so I am guessing we will start seeing them as police bikes soon.
Like I said, I can see the Spyder for freeway traffic enforcement. In fact, I am sure it would excel at that. But watch LEO M/C's when they ride in a congested city like Vancouver. They are riding slow, and executing maneuvers that really, only a two wheeler would be able to in the confined spaces they have to operate.
As an example, a friend of ine was recently on a ride with an old buddy of his. His buddy is a senior M/C instructor with the Vancouver PD, and is also a member of their drill team. They stopped for gas during the ride, and Mike's buddy said, "Watch and learn, This is low speed riding."
He then went on to execute a figure 8 under the canopy, never going outside it, within the boundaries of the sets of pumps facing each other, and never putting his foot to ground. Yes, a bit of showing off, but skills they definitely need in slow, urban traffic.
When I was in London in February, I paid close attention to how the London Police M/C riders were doing their thing. Constant lane splits, and tight weaves between stopped, or slowly moving traffic. Visualizing that, the Spyder won't be able to do it. It's a great machine, but like I said it has limitations.
As to snowmobiles "up north"! Argh, we don't live in igloos either. Maybe, just maube in the extreme north, and a very isolated area, but what they tend to use is Yukons and helicopters.
As an example, a friend of ine was recently on a ride with an old buddy of his. His buddy is a senior M/C instructor with the Vancouver PD, and is also a member of their drill team. They stopped for gas during the ride, and Mike's buddy said, "Watch and learn, This is low speed riding."
He then went on to execute a figure 8 under the canopy, never going outside it, within the boundaries of the sets of pumps facing each other, and never putting his foot to ground. Yes, a bit of showing off, but skills they definitely need in slow, urban traffic.
When I was in London in February, I paid close attention to how the London Police M/C riders were doing their thing. Constant lane splits, and tight weaves between stopped, or slowly moving traffic. Visualizing that, the Spyder won't be able to do it. It's a great machine, but like I said it has limitations.
As to snowmobiles "up north"! Argh, we don't live in igloos either. Maybe, just maube in the extreme north, and a very isolated area, but what they tend to use is Yukons and helicopters.
Rotaxrocket
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I'm certainly not saying that it is an impossiblilty for Spyders, but I don't see it replacing police motors with police departments. They would be hard to squeeze through traffic that was congested for call response. Where I used to work we had motors, electric cars, golf carts, atv's, and bicycles. Everything has a use and a function. Municipal budgets are very tight and strained these days. Departments are getting away from any frills. Some are even giving up their motor units or downscaling. I would love to see a Can Am strobed out with a siren and marked up. Not trying to rain on the parade, just been there done that............. :doorag: :cop:
Rando
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And the Spyder certainly looks better than this one!majinbusa said:
http://www.cyclemos.com/museum/cycle%20(10).html
1947 G Servicar
This little number was acquired several years ago from "being in the right place at the right time". It is a wonderful original Philadelphia police vehicle. It was used by the police department as a meter maid's vehicle up until 1958. It was then acquired by a local land developer and used as a site observation vehicle. An interesting fact about this machine is that it is set up with a left hand throttle/right hand shift combination. One might like to believe that it was to keep the shooting hand free. . . but it was actually designed to make chalking your parked car easier for the meter maid!
LittleJohn
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Very cool! I had a friend that had one, but it had the standard right throttle and left shift.Rando said:
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