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Plastic gas can on back of spyder?
- Thread starter Al Bragg
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Dudley
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I have had, and always will have a question for those who want to carry an extra gas container....WHY! I have been riding since 1966 and have never run out of gas, never. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to ride without running out of gas without an extra gas container, no matter where you go. I know we all have our own pet desires, but this one has always puzzled me.
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Maybe he wants to get gas for his lawn mower.
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Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I agree...people would be better served if they put on a plastic tank with an icy cold beverage (or in a backpack)...like the cyclists and hikers do...ahhhh, a nice cold drink while on the highway on a hot day.
I think people have a fascination with gas and fires...I'd prefer a nice Pellegrino!
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
For the most part, I can find no regulations against transporting gasoline in an approved and appropriately labeled storage container. That does not mean it is a good idea. Think of the exposure and the risk of container spill or breakage in case of an accident. Think of the risk involved if a tie-down slips or breaks. Think of long months in the burn unit, getting skin grafts. Is this really a risk you want to take?
IMO the risk out weighs the benifit. Bad enough you don't have a cage to protect you. Last thing you need is having it turn into a Pinto. Might be okay on a jet ski or atv .... but on a public highway traveling at high rate of speed? Naaaah ... no thanks.
bikeguy
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I don't think I'll be adding an auxiliary tank to my Spyder when I get it but I do really wish it had a longer range. I agree with Dudley that one can avoid running out of gas with a little planning. But, to be honest, I don't always enjoy totally planned trips. I like to be able to take off on a road that I've never been down just to see what's there. Sometimes those little roads wind up dead-ending 30 or 40 miles down the road and that means turning around and going back where you started. By then, gasoline can be running pretty low. I really like the 240 - 250 mile range my BMW gives me whether I intend to ride that far without stopping or not.
Cotton
Cotton
Al Bragg
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Thanks for the replys everyone.
My wife (Quackerz) and I are planning a ride east on route 66 in May. I have no idea of what the gas station situation is like anymore on the mother road.
Dudley I am very good at planning trips. Really. I plan for the unforeseen, like what Lamontster encountered. And that is why I was asking.
I am looking at a product made here in the USA called rotopax. I am not pluging the company, just asking if it's legal to use these on the highways.
There web site shows the cans being used on 4x4s and in the beds of trucks, and even on the back of a motorcycle attached to hard saddle bags.
Propper planning prevents poor preformance.
I also don't know of any GPS unit that has upto the minute info on power outages and gas avaliabity.
My wife (Quackerz) and I are planning a ride east on route 66 in May. I have no idea of what the gas station situation is like anymore on the mother road.
Dudley I am very good at planning trips. Really. I plan for the unforeseen, like what Lamontster encountered. And that is why I was asking.
I am looking at a product made here in the USA called rotopax. I am not pluging the company, just asking if it's legal to use these on the highways.
There web site shows the cans being used on 4x4s and in the beds of trucks, and even on the back of a motorcycle attached to hard saddle bags.
Propper planning prevents poor preformance.
I also don't know of any GPS unit that has upto the minute info on power outages and gas avaliabity.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Interesting...never in my years of driving have power outages at gas stations been a problem...in fact, I've never seen one. Is this a regional thing? As far as gas availability, most all GPSs that are updated are going to give you what you need. We have a safe range of 140 miles (give or take) at highway speed on the Spyder, I know some say there are stretches of 200 miles without a station, but certainly not for most of the country...the interstates are marked well with stops and what is available at each stop. Any places I've ever driven have road markers that will clearly say something like 'next exit after this one is 35 miles', or something to that extent. Anyplace I've been in our great nation has had more than enough gas stations...haven't been to Alaska or Wyoming/Montana/Dakotas, but as far as most of the rest of the country, there should be a gas station at least every 100 miles (the east coast is like 10 every mile!
)Being the RT is a touring bike, does that have either a larger tank or does it get substantially better mileage?
I like stopping every 2 hours regardless...gets me out and moving...any static position for too long creates biomechanical stress...just as you're supposed to get up and move around 5-10 minutes every hour at work, so too should you take breaks when you're on a long drive in a car or a bike....
Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
Interesting...never in my years of driving have power outages at gas stations been a problem...in fact, I've never seen one. Is this a regional thing? As far as gas availability, most all GPSs that are updated are going to give you what you need. We have a safe range of 140 miles (give or take) at highway speed on the Spyder, I know some say there are stretches of 200 miles without a station, but certainly not for most of the country...the interstates are marked well with stops and what is available at each stop. Any places I've ever driven have road markers that will clearly say something like 'next exit after this one is 35 miles', or something to that extent. Anyplace I've been in our great nation has had more than enough gas stations...haven't been to Alaska or Wyoming/Montana/Dakotas, but as far as most of the rest of the country, there should be a gas station at least every 100 miles (the east coast is like 10 every mile!
Being the RT is a touring bike, does that have either a larger tank or does it get substantially better mileage?
I like stopping every 2 hours regardless...gets me out and moving...any static position for too long creates biomechanical stress...just as you're supposed to get up and move around 5-10 minutes every hour at work, so too should you take breaks when you're on a long drive in a car or a bike....
Guess you didn't read my links but I went 210 miles towing a trailer before I found fuel. I never thought I would need the gas I took with me but I was very thankful I had it at the time. I never saw a power outage like that either but you never know what surprises are ahead of you on a trip like that.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Same size tank. I will be surprised at better mileage, so far it seems worse, but I haven't broken it in or given it a fair comparison. The larger frontal area is a concern, but some of the aerodynamics may be improved.
:agree: There are better ways to carry the spare fuel than strapped to the passenger seat in a plastic can, though. The Rotopax units look quite sturdy and compact, but the Spyder has no good place to use their attachment hardware. I think they would be great for a trailer. The fuel range issue is one place the Spyder lags behind most touring bikes.
Al Bragg
New member
I agree about strapping the can to the passanger seat is not the ideal thing to do.
If all goes well between now and our trip, We might get a trailer and set the gas can up like Lamotster did with the gas in the cooler with the frostie cold stuff.
I like to be ready for the worst case stuff. Thats why I even carry Zombie repelent when I travel the road less traveled.:joke:
Ya just never know.
If all goes well between now and our trip, We might get a trailer and set the gas can up like Lamotster did with the gas in the cooler with the frostie cold stuff.
I like to be ready for the worst case stuff. Thats why I even carry Zombie repelent when I travel the road less traveled.:joke:
Ya just never know.
Jornie1
New member
Geeeze....
I know that the dreaded malady of "biomechanical stress" has taken down many a good man... I pray that it never takes me down... as I have a lot of RT riding ahead of me.... If I can just stay away from the horrors of "biomechanical stress" I will forever be a very "Happy Spyder Rider"...May God help me if I ever get it!!! Len
[/QUOTE]...I like stopping every 2 hours regardless...gets me out and moving...any static position for too long creates biomechanical stress...just as you're supposed to get up and move around 5-10 minutes every hour at work, so too should you take breaks when you're on a long drive in a car or a bike....[/QUOTE]
I know that the dreaded malady of "biomechanical stress" has taken down many a good man... I pray that it never takes me down... as I have a lot of RT riding ahead of me.... If I can just stay away from the horrors of "biomechanical stress" I will forever be a very "Happy Spyder Rider"...May God help me if I ever get it!!! Len
[/QUOTE]...I like stopping every 2 hours regardless...gets me out and moving...any static position for too long creates biomechanical stress...just as you're supposed to get up and move around 5-10 minutes every hour at work, so too should you take breaks when you're on a long drive in a car or a bike....[/QUOTE]
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Yeah, I guess most of my riding will be done on the east coast where there is more than an abundance of gas stations. If I ever go cross country, obviously I'll have to consider this issue more...nothing worse than running out of gas AND not having cell service...that could really be a drag...just my luck I'll get a nice thunderstorm over my head too!
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Lamont,
You are a true long distance rider...
I don't think my wife will ever let me go on multiple thousand mile rides anywhere...I'll likely stick to the east coast...I am planning on an Iron Butt ride this summer with my riding group...I'm hoping my Spyder can handle 1000 miles in about 15 hours...this is one of the reasons for the tire repair questions...I actually ordered the Ride-on...George Burns is a great guy and really appreciates you sending all of us over there! I'm looking forward to getting that stuff into my tires!
I also got the Kewl Metal footpegs as many here like them for longer rides...on the highway, it'll be nice to move the feet a little forward for rest...
draboo
New member
Desert Spyder
New member
Rotopax appears very sturdy and gives a very organized look but I can't help feeling the need to go to Legoland now.
BajaRon
Well-known member
I am just not a big fan of fuel cans in or on my ride. I know there are times when it would be nice but when I make a list of all the things it would have been nice to have I'm back to driving a car. And that really defeats the purpose.
I like to travel light. Ok, it gets me in trouble at times but not very often. And how do I know which thing I'm going to need? My luck, I'll take fuel and need something else I didn't take.
It's Murphy's Law! For instance, if I had gone with Lamont on his 2nd trip to CA last year the power would not have been out and he would not have had the fuel problem. Just the way it always works out.
I can easily get 180 miles on a tank, normal, relatively flat, at 80mph riding. Better if I slow down a bit.
Now people like Lamont that pull a trailer don't do that well but if you're pulling a trailer then sure, carrying fuel becomes more of a necessity and you've got the room to put it.
That's one great thing about riding with Lamont! He will ALWAYS run out of fuel before I do so I don't have to worry much about that. And I can carry a ton of stuff in his trailer that I woudln't normally take. Hmmmm, guess that's 2 things.
I like to travel light. Ok, it gets me in trouble at times but not very often. And how do I know which thing I'm going to need? My luck, I'll take fuel and need something else I didn't take.
It's Murphy's Law! For instance, if I had gone with Lamont on his 2nd trip to CA last year the power would not have been out and he would not have had the fuel problem. Just the way it always works out.
I can easily get 180 miles on a tank, normal, relatively flat, at 80mph riding. Better if I slow down a bit.
Now people like Lamont that pull a trailer don't do that well but if you're pulling a trailer then sure, carrying fuel becomes more of a necessity and you've got the room to put it.
That's one great thing about riding with Lamont! He will ALWAYS run out of fuel before I do so I don't have to worry much about that. And I can carry a ton of stuff in his trailer that I woudln't normally take. Hmmmm, guess that's 2 things.
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