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Planning a Pacific Coast Highway trip - looking for suggestions

MNF3

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Three of us are just starting the planning process for a trip next August. Looking at trailering the bikes from Southern MN to Denver or Salt Lake City; then ride to Oregon; get on the Highway there and ride down to Los Angeles. Then ride East and back up to Denver or Salt Lake City.
Can this trip be done in two weeks? Where should we stop? Just looking to your experience on this route.
Thanks in advance!
Bob
 
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You didn't say where in Oregon you want to go, so I'll offer Bend, Or. as a via city.
From Denver Mile High Stadium you can take I70W to US40W to Co125N to Hwy239N to I80W to I84W to I86W to Hwy78W to US95S to Hwy78W to US20W. That is 20 hrs saddle time or 2 1/2 days at 8 hrs/day.

From Oregon you can pick up US199 or US101 into Crescent City Ca. and follow the yellow brick road PCH to LA. Another 14 hrs (~2days) in the saddle.

From LA head to Las Vegas and on to Mile High 16 hrs (2 days).

So at 8 hrs/day saddle time, you can make the loop in 7 days. That leaves more than enough time to hit your attractions along the way.
 
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We left Seattle and made it to Gold Beach OR the first night. Then to my home town of Novato (just 30 miles north of the Golden Gate Bridge) the second night. That is where we stopped going south and went east on 88 then through NV on 50. IMO Salt Lake City would be better than Denver and the loop would be easier. Up though Boise and then up from Portland to Astoria to get on 1. I would skip LA and get off 1 after Malibu on 27 (Topanga Canyon road) then make your way to I 15 and go through Vegas and on back to SLC.
 
The PCH between San Francisco and FT Bragg is very twisty. Plan for extra hours. It can be slow and tiring. Two weeks is ample time for your trip. Northern Ca. and the entire Oregon coast are well worth spending extra time doing. An option is to head east from NW Oregon, through the Columbia River gorge to Pendleton, then start heading SE to Baker City (great place to stop for a night). From there SLC is an easy days ride. Enjoy..... Jim
 
Assuming the 2 week time frame is from MN to MN, correct?

I tend to plan by hours based on Google Maps or MyRouteApp rather than miles. A group I ride with aims for 6 hours of riding time per day; riding solo I'm good with 7-8. Planning by hours is especially helpful on a trip like this since, for example, the interstate across Utah at 80+mph will get you a lot more miles than you can get in the same amount of time along the coast.

How many hours per day can you comfortably drive per day during the trailering phase?

How many hours per day are you comfortable with on the Spyder?

What is your touring style? Emphasis on using the day for riding, stopping only for breaks (my style). Or stop frequently to smell the roses or the pines or redwoods or do other sightseeing along the way?

You've got some "get there" days which mostly means interstates. August is going to be hot and you'll be dealing with thunderstorms in some areas so I might trailer farther than Denver or SLC. Especially if you've got a chance to come back in the future to enjoy CO (we did 5 days back in June and wished we had more), such that you can better enjoy OR and the CA coast this trip.

You won't be able to ride all the way from San Francisco to LA on Hwy 1 since a section is closed until 2026 (Dolan Creek Bridge to Limekiln Creek Bridge). So if you want to go all the way to LA, you'll need to figure out how you want to deal with that (Hwy 101 is not nearly as nice, but it's better than I-5).
 
The PCH between San Francisco and FT Bragg is very twisty. Plan for extra hours. It can be slow and tiring. Two weeks is ample time for your trip. Northern Ca. and the entire Oregon coast are well worth spending extra time doing. An option is to head east from NW Oregon, through the Columbia River gorge to Pendleton, then start heading SE to Baker City (great place to stop for a night). From there SLC is an easy days ride. Enjoy..... Jim

True, but PCH is one of the most beautiful scenic drives in the country, if not the world.
 
Now that would be pretty cool to do both PCH and 66 on the same trip! Not in the cards this time though.
 
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Assuming the 2 week time frame is from MN to MN, correct?

I tend to plan by hours based on Google Maps or MyRouteApp rather than miles. A group I ride with aims for 6 hours of riding time per day; riding solo I'm good with 7-8. Planning by hours is especially helpful on a trip like this since, for example, the interstate across Utah at 80+mph will get you a lot more miles than you can get in the same amount of time along the coast.

How many hours per day can you comfortably drive per day during the trailering phase?

How many hours per day are you comfortable with on the Spyder?

What is your touring style? Emphasis on using the day for riding, stopping only for breaks (my style). Or stop frequently to smell the roses or the pines or redwoods or do other sightseeing along the way?

You've got some "get there" days which mostly means interstates. August is going to be hot and you'll be dealing with thunderstorms in some areas so I might trailer farther than Denver or SLC. Especially if you've got a chance to come back in the future to enjoy CO (we did 5 days back in June and wished we had more), such that you can better enjoy OR and the CA coast this trip.

You won't be able to ride all the way from San Francisco to LA on Hwy 1 since a section is closed until 2026 (Dolan Creek Bridge to Limekiln Creek Bridge). So if you want to go all the way to LA, you'll need to figure out how you want to deal with that (Hwy 101 is not nearly as nice, but it's better than I-5).

Thanks - good questions to bring up with the group.
Bob
 
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That looks pretty cool.
I've always wanted to take a scenic train trip in a sleeper car.
There are a couple of different rooms available, depending on your budget and how many people are in your group.

https://www.amtrak.com/sleeper-car-accommodations

I'm going to spring for a Bedroom, which has a bathroom and shower in the room.

The smaller (and cheaper) roomette doesn't have a bathroom and shower. Instead, there are four bathroom/shower rooms shared between the occupants of 14 roomettes in the car.
 
I'm right off of Hwy 1, so I can give you some more specific info, if you wish.

I will say that Hwy 1 is closed between Big Sur and Morro Bay. You can look up "Paul's Slide". It's a massive landslide that made the news several years ago and could be seen from space and hasn't really been reopened since. You can hit Big Sur from Monterey, but then have to turn around and head back to the freeway (Hwy 101). You can cut back over to Hwy 1 at Paso Robles, but you will miss some scenery, but it's unavoidable. However, I do say I think it's worth it to double back from Big Sur to Monterey, because it's so pretty. You just have to allow for extra time because of the double back. One of my favorite ways to go is to head north from Morro Bay to a place called "Ragged Point". Depending on your budget, it has a really nice hotel and restaurant there, or you could go slightly further north to Gorda and stay there (I haven't so I can't personally vouch for it.). But, again you'll have to turn around and double back and head south on Hwy 1. Personally, I don't consider that a negative, because it's pretty and a bucket list location.

I will also say to adjust your expectations around the Big Sur area, because if you look at old photographs or videos, it's absolutely green and stunning. However, there was a major wildland fire about 10-15 years ago that devastated the area and it hasn't recovered. It'll be several centuries before it fully recovers because of the major forest losses. They saved Big Sur, but the surrounding areas are now coastal scrub with patchy trees.

Sorry, if it sounds like I'm being slightly down, however I do think it's totally worth it. I just want people to have realistic expectations and make accurate plans. :thumbup:
 
When the gentleman above me said "hot" he was discussing temps in the 100+ range. I've ridden that area for many a year, and finally bought a wet vest when I saw the giant thermometer in Baker reading 114 degrees. Be prepared, pack water. Don't try to stretch the daily drive. That will lead you directly to the Heatstroke Hills.

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Don't know where you'll hit the coart in Oregon as there's several places to cross over Portland to Tillamook? Portland toward Lincolin City? Eugene to Florence? In Oregon there are several beautiful historical light houses you can stop at. If you have time, when you are in California, I strongly suggest you cut inland to 101 and ride the Avenue of The Giants. You can then go back west and continue down the coast. The west coast drive is one of the most beautiful rides in the country. I rode hwy 1 in Marin and Sonoma counties so many times in the summers, there are probably still grooves in the pavement there from my motorcycle.

Just be aware that summertime is also fog time on the coast. It often burns off by 10-11am but it can also be stubborn and hang around longer. Oh, and there's lower fog and upper fog. Lower fog comes all the way to near the ground, and the upper fog just looks like low clouds. I grew up in Marin, and people from out of town would see the upper fog and ask: "Is it going to rain?" I'd explain, it's famous SF fog, and it'll be gone by around 10:30am. Don't let the thermometer fool you, when riding through the damp fog, it'll feel a lot colder than the temp numbers suggest. My wife and I still have this memory that became a 40 year long joke, that when we first met, she was willing to ride to the coast on the back of my motorcycle, fog and all, in a shorty shirt and shorts, until we got married, and she told me she really didn't like riding the bike, and certainly didn't like riding in the cold. Ahh, the things we do for love, until the ring is on the finger. :roflblack:

You'll encounter neat little places down the coast where you can stop for a meal. When you get to Marin, there's the famous Tomales Bay Oyster Company in Marshal. North of that is Bodega Bay where the Alfred Hitchcock movie The Birds was filmed. Sadly, the cafe in the movie is gone, but the street and house in the film is still there.

Rather than taking 1 all the way south to where it cuts inland in Marin at Muir beach, I'll send you on one of my vary favorite motorcycvle roads in Marin. Take Fairfax-Bolinas Rd right before Bolinas Bay. This will start off heading East, and up hill, but will then head south for a while. Lots of Twisties! in 4.4 miles, it'll make a right angle left turn, but instead of turning left, continue straight, and this will be West Ridgecrest Blvd, which becomes Ridgecrest Blvd, and finally East Ridgecrest Blvd which will take to to the top of Mt Tam. From the parkinglot, there are some trails that'll take you around the peak area for some incredible views of the Bay Area - IF, it isn't foggy and to the old Gardner Fire lookout. Speaking of fog, the area of Ridgecrest Blvd, that breaks out of the trees and crosses the grassy hill, is right at where the top of the lower fog's altitude, and if the conditions are just right, you dip in and out of the top of the fog and can actually watch it pour over the ridge as it heads inland. The top of Tam often sits above the fog, so even if the Bay area is fogged in, you get a neat view of the top of the fog, and again, when things are just right, parts of SF sticking up through the grey blanket. An excellent way to experience the world famous San Francisco fog from above.

When you leave the top, set your next stop on your GPS as Stinson Beach, and this will get you back down to 1 without having to backtrack too far.

As has also been suggested, a ride through wine country is wonderful in the summertime - the Silverado Trail is a good one. Unfortunately, parts of this area was ravaged by fire a few years ago.

You can do both although not in a single day. To do wine country AND the trip to the top of Tam, you cut east off of 1 just south of Jenner to 116, then 12 to Sonama and on to Napa, take the Silverado Trail North to Calistoga (Pacifico Restaurante Mexicano) is a nice place to eat in Calistoga, then south on 128/29 to 37, and West on 37, then South on 101 to San Rafael - where I grew up - West though San Anselmo - where I was born - to Fairfax, then pick up the east end of the Fairfax to Bolinas road, until it Ts where it meets West Ridge Blvd and heads up to the top of Tam. Along the Fairfax-Bolinas Blvd, you cross the Alpine Lake Dam which a is a place that used to be weekend party central in the late 60s early 70s - don't ask me how I know. Phew!

Anyway, you'll take 101 across the San Francisco bridge where I suggest you take the Alexander Ave exit before the bridge, park, and walk the bridge, then check out the old Gun Batteries along the south cliffs of Marin where there's an outstanding a dn very famous view of the bridge and the City. At the other end is Fort Point, then head to Fisherman's Wharf where you must stop for Cioppino at well... Cioppino's.

As you head south another cool place to stop is Santa Cruise to check out the boardwalk. Lots of great childhood summer memories for me there. My grandmother used to Summer in Santa Cruise just a block and a half from the boardwalk. Needsless to say we always loved going to stay at Grandma's for a few days! I'll pass you off to the more Southern California travel advisors

Good luck with your plans. So many places, so little time.

Ok, time to pass you
 
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