Easy Rider
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Thank you.
I admire folks who take the time to share the details of their unfortunate experiences so that others might benefit.
Posts in places like this are MUCH easier to read if you put in a little white space. :thumbup:
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Parking brake light comes on & brakes lock up - UPDATE!
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Thank you.
I admire folks who take the time to share the details of their unfortunate experiences so that others might benefit.
Posts in places like this are MUCH easier to read if you put in a little white space. :thumbup:
SC Spyder Girl
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Thanks for the heads up about white space. I didn't even realize what my post would look like since it was my first one but I will definitely
keep that in mind if I post again. As an update, I got a call that my windshield/parking brake module is in (BRP did in fact overnight it) so the
technician will be working on it as of tomorrow.
AeroPilot
Member
New Wrinkle - '16 F3T with same PO571 and P1571 Codes as HayRog had on his '15 RT
But everyone refers to the parking brake switch but which one. On the RT there is a dash switch by itself on the console, but also a switch on the motor pulley that indicates when the pulley rotates to "Taut" or SET position, by a cam hitting a metal finger switch that tells the dash light to light and also activate beeping noise if not released. On our '16 F3T, the operator switch is on the left handlebar cluster and the dealer says the whole bar end switch cluster needs to be replaced. Is that actually the switch the PO571 Switch Fault Code is referring to?? The P1571 supposedly refers to a "Deactivation Fault" with WPM thrown in? hhhmmmmm....
My wife's bike has had the BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP... go on and on, but she never had the parking brake set and not release. Codes are the same and looks like the RTs and F3 both have the same parking brake motor, with a locator switch attached. First fault last Sept in Utah at Red Rocks... dealer cleared codes and all good 'til today when the Gremlin reared its head again! :gaah: I rode the bike to the local dealer, and he again cleared the same codes, but no other ideas or parts in stock... hmmm.
But everyone refers to the parking brake switch but which one. On the RT there is a dash switch by itself on the console, but also a switch on the motor pulley that indicates when the pulley rotates to "Taut" or SET position, by a cam hitting a metal finger switch that tells the dash light to light and also activate beeping noise if not released. On our '16 F3T, the operator switch is on the left handlebar cluster and the dealer says the whole bar end switch cluster needs to be replaced. Is that actually the switch the PO571 Switch Fault Code is referring to?? The P1571 supposedly refers to a "Deactivation Fault" with WPM thrown in? hhhmmmmm....
My wife's bike has had the BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP... go on and on, but she never had the parking brake set and not release. Codes are the same and looks like the RTs and F3 both have the same parking brake motor, with a locator switch attached. First fault last Sept in Utah at Red Rocks... dealer cleared codes and all good 'til today when the Gremlin reared its head again! :gaah: I rode the bike to the local dealer, and he again cleared the same codes, but no other ideas or parts in stock... hmmm.
Mee Toooo
I have an update on my problems. I am new here and learning how to post and repost with helpful info so please bare with me.
Downshifting problems
I have an update on my problems. I am new here and learning how to post and repost with helpful info so please bare with me.
Downshifting problems
I had the same problems with my SE6 not wanting to downshift or go into reverse. I was also having problems with my brake not releasing when I wanted to go some where. I finally got it to the shop and they could not replicate the problem. This was the second time with the brake not releasing. Neither time the shop couldn't replicate the problem. They got in touch with Can Am and were able to replace my reverse switch which I believe also replaced my brake switch at sometime. They had a call from Can Am and was told to order the brake motor also as Can Am knew of some problems with it also. I just got it back and it shifts smoother than it did. I only have 15 miles on it since I got it back but am hopeful of not having anymore problems. By the way I only have 600 +/- miles on my new 2018 SE6 and had these problems. I am new to the threads here and I hope I can help with my problems and hope they are corrected.
Brake won't release
I had 14,000 mi. And the brake light wouldn't release and when it did release red light was solid. Road it to dealership, they couldn't replicate problem sent me home.
Yesterday, on hill in SD brake won't release. Note to self don't park on a hill again. Finally disengaged light solid red so I rode to a spot with no people. Turned engine off and let it beep itself to death. Started it up all's well. About 21,000 miles on a 2016 RTS.
I had 14,000 mi. And the brake light wouldn't release and when it did release red light was solid. Road it to dealership, they couldn't replicate problem sent me home.
Yesterday, on hill in SD brake won't release. Note to self don't park on a hill again. Finally disengaged light solid red so I rode to a spot with no people. Turned engine off and let it beep itself to death. Started it up all's well. About 21,000 miles on a 2016 RTS.
Same story different verse
So in March I had my bike in for normal service and the dealer told me that there was a recall on my parking brake and they needed to wait on the part. I had a ride coming up and needed my bike back, but they don't me they couldn't release my bike since I had a parking brake recall, which I hadn't had an issues with at this time. So they replaced the park in March and I'm getting ready to go on a trip from MD to AZ and wanted my regular dealer to take care of somethings before I left and when they arrived to pick up my bike the parking brake wouldn't disenage even though my brother had just pulled it out of the garage with no problem. The dealership called to tell me that there wasn't a recall on the parking brake, but if customers complained that BRP would replace the motor at no cost. I imformed him what I was told and that I wasn't having a problem then but I am now and he is waiting on BRP to get back to him to see if they will replace the same part again at no cost to me. The problem is I leave on my trip on Saturday and it was Wednesday when he was waiting on BRP to get back to him and plus he still needed to order the part. :shocked: I don't know if I will be able to make the yearly trip this coming weekend or not and I scared that the motor, or whatever might go out again on my 10 day cross country trip.
The point is I was told BRP know there is a problem and if the customer complains they would replace it. I hope this helps.
So in March I had my bike in for normal service and the dealer told me that there was a recall on my parking brake and they needed to wait on the part. I had a ride coming up and needed my bike back, but they don't me they couldn't release my bike since I had a parking brake recall, which I hadn't had an issues with at this time. So they replaced the park in March and I'm getting ready to go on a trip from MD to AZ and wanted my regular dealer to take care of somethings before I left and when they arrived to pick up my bike the parking brake wouldn't disenage even though my brother had just pulled it out of the garage with no problem. The dealership called to tell me that there wasn't a recall on the parking brake, but if customers complained that BRP would replace the motor at no cost. I imformed him what I was told and that I wasn't having a problem then but I am now and he is waiting on BRP to get back to him to see if they will replace the same part again at no cost to me. The problem is I leave on my trip on Saturday and it was Wednesday when he was waiting on BRP to get back to him and plus he still needed to order the part. :shocked: I don't know if I will be able to make the yearly trip this coming weekend or not and I scared that the motor, or whatever might go out again on my 10 day cross country trip.
The point is I was told BRP know there is a problem and if the customer complains they would replace it. I hope this helps.
kevin_from_ny
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I have the same thought. Maybe I should stick to my Goldwing
Just bear in mind that MANY of the posters on Forums only come to said Forums like this to find out how to fix the problems they are having or to vent about how their machine isn't doing what they expected, some even spam every dedicated Forum they can find in an attempt to gather a mob together to go & burn a dealer or manufacturer at the stake... but there are literally TENS of THOUSANDS of reasonably happy Spyder owners out there who ride their Spyders heaps without ever encountering most of these issues, IF they have any at all!!
There are over 100,000 Spyders that've been sold now, more than 27,000 members here, and you see what, maybe a max of 5 threads here talking about this particular problem, and most of the posters in those threads who actually HAVE the issue have posted multiple times, so probably the percentage of Spyder Owners out there who are busy riding happily is somewhere in the high 90%'s! And Statisticians/researchers have known for years that if you are happy with something, you MIGHT tell maybe 2 people, but if you AREN'T happy with something, you'll tell at least 15 people - only in this day of easy access to mass & social media, that 15 is probably more likely to be 15 thousand, maybe even million!!
Sooo, if you are only ever going to buy something that's not actively being bagged somewhere on the internet, you'll probably NEVER buy ANYTHING ever again!! Check out the Goldwing Forums, in my recent 'thorough cursory glances', the bulk of what I got to see was people whinging & complaining about the problems they had & how bad they were being treated by Honda, but I know from experience that most riders think Honda's & Wings in particular are pretty good & fairly reliable machines from a fairly responsive manufacturer - but I certainly wouldn't think that from my recent readings of all the Honda/Wing Forums! So those Forums seem to do much the same as this one?!?
I'm really not trying to belittle or ignore those who are having this or any other problem with their Spyders, there are definitely some with real problems out there & obviously many with issues that BRP aren't addressing properly; but overall, the percentage is pretty small, so I'm just trying to point out that MOST of us don't have this or any other problem, and the bulk of us are usually out there happily racking up the relatively pain free miles with grins a mile wide on our faces, just like most Honda Goldwing riders are, and the Kawasaki riders, or the Suzuki riders, Guzzi riders, Victory riders, etc, etc, etc... not too sure about the Harley riders tho, they are probably out there in the dark still picking up the pieces! :joke:
The point is, don't buy trouble before you've even bought a Spyder, do what most of us do - Buy the Damn thing, then RIDE MORE & WORRY LESS!
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Easy Rider
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You should be able to convert a stock Wing to 3 wheels for about half the price of a new Spyder.
If it is in good condition, that might be a viable option.
I got the beep beep
My dash brake indicator stayed on and flashed the light with a beep beep, but after turning the ignition off and restarting, it went back to normal. What I found was to not undo the brake until the engine was started; doing it out of sequence, meaning doing the brake first, then going through the start up, seems to be causing the problem. I think doing it out of sequence didn’t give the computer time. Since releasing the brake last, I haven’t had an issue.
My dash brake indicator stayed on and flashed the light with a beep beep, but after turning the ignition off and restarting, it went back to normal. What I found was to not undo the brake until the engine was started; doing it out of sequence, meaning doing the brake first, then going through the start up, seems to be causing the problem. I think doing it out of sequence didn’t give the computer time. Since releasing the brake last, I haven’t had an issue.
Voltage??
I haven't had this problem but when I read the thread I immediately thought 'Voltage Problem'. This might be a sign of an aging/weakening battery. IMHO
I haven't had this problem but when I read the thread I immediately thought 'Voltage Problem'. This might be a sign of an aging/weakening battery. IMHO
jackndeanie
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Started bike out of sequence, parking brake locked...
I have a 2018 RT Limited with about 2000 miles. Last night my parking brake wouldn't release. This is the first time this has happened to me. I know that I started the bike out of sequence. I stabbed for the Mode button and hit Park instead, and when I found the brake locked on, I wondered if that might be what caused it. In my case though, I couldn't just restart, I had to leave it off for a while (30 mins) before the problem cleared itself. I've restarted and moved the bike several times since then, and the parking brake works perfectly. Even though all seems OK, she's going to the dealer Tuesday to be checked over.
I have a 2018 RT Limited with about 2000 miles. Last night my parking brake wouldn't release. This is the first time this has happened to me. I know that I started the bike out of sequence. I stabbed for the Mode button and hit Park instead, and when I found the brake locked on, I wondered if that might be what caused it. In my case though, I couldn't just restart, I had to leave it off for a while (30 mins) before the problem cleared itself. I've restarted and moved the bike several times since then, and the parking brake works perfectly. Even though all seems OK, she's going to the dealer Tuesday to be checked over.
Regarding unable to start, take a look at the owners manual, page 136, under ENGINE DOES NOT START. Check item numbers 1, 2, & 7. Do any of these apply?
jackndeanie
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IgoFar2, sorry, I was not clear when I wrote, '...I couldn't just restart...' What I meant was I couldn't just turn the key off and on and boom, it was fixed. I tried restarting several times. The bike always started up, but the flashing brake indicator light light and the warning beep would start up as soon as the key was turned on and continue after the bike was running. Pushing the parking brake button didn't affect the light or the beep, and the parking brake remained locked on. I finally had my wife bring me home to get a wrench so I could unhook the parking brake cable. The trip took 30 to 45 minutes and of course the bike was off during that time. The first thing I did when I got back was try the key one more time - and all was good. This time there was no flashing light or beeping when I turned the key. I started her up and drove her home with no problems along the way. I've tried to duplicate the problem several times since I got her home, can't do it.
I did check item numbers 1, 2, & 7 on page 136 under ENGINE DOES NOT START. They did not apply.
Parking Brake issue is more serious than anyone is acknowledgement
The Parking Brakes locked up on my father at 50 mph. He is lucky to be alive. I am a Spyder RSS rider. My father had a 2018 RT Limited until yesterday.
After church, he went out to the RT and went to start it and the Parking brake would not disengage. This is the 4th time he has had to deal with this and he's had conversations about it with the dealer who does the maintenance work around here for us. Just as he had done before, he had to loosen the brake just enough to release it. Once the system recognized the release, he proceeded home - approximately 6-8 miles away. He was traveling down a main road and got the bike up to 50 mph and locked on the cruise control. Within 3 seconds, the parking light flashed and the bike locked down, sending him off the side of the road down a 4ft ditch flipping a couple of times.
Luckily the ground was soft enough! He is horribly bruised, has a severe burn where the exhaust pipe landed on his hip, probably a broken hand, and a fractured rib. But my father is ALIVE.
Please let us know if you have had a similar issue!!!
The Parking Brakes locked up on my father at 50 mph. He is lucky to be alive. I am a Spyder RSS rider. My father had a 2018 RT Limited until yesterday.
After church, he went out to the RT and went to start it and the Parking brake would not disengage. This is the 4th time he has had to deal with this and he's had conversations about it with the dealer who does the maintenance work around here for us. Just as he had done before, he had to loosen the brake just enough to release it. Once the system recognized the release, he proceeded home - approximately 6-8 miles away. He was traveling down a main road and got the bike up to 50 mph and locked on the cruise control. Within 3 seconds, the parking light flashed and the bike locked down, sending him off the side of the road down a 4ft ditch flipping a couple of times.
Luckily the ground was soft enough! He is horribly bruised, has a severe burn where the exhaust pipe landed on his hip, probably a broken hand, and a fractured rib. But my father is ALIVE.
Please let us know if you have had a similar issue!!!
Easy Rider
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So should the NTSB and the NHTSA.
Please report this to them.
BRP needs to take this problem a bit more seriously.
Too bad that they seemingly need to be FORCED to do that.
Bob Denman
New member
There had to be a lot of failures for this to occur...
First; there's an interlock that prevents the parking brake from applying at speeds above 6 mph...
(I know: I've checked mine, and it worked on all three of my RTs...)
Then we have the mysterious engagement of it...
I think that I'd like to see some proof of the cause when your dealer determines exactly what happened.
First; there's an interlock that prevents the parking brake from applying at speeds above 6 mph...
(I know: I've checked mine, and it worked on all three of my RTs...)
Then we have the mysterious engagement of it...
I think that I'd like to see some proof of the cause when your dealer determines exactly what happened.
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