I took the panel off over the oil dipstick to check my oil. Once it was back on it seems like its very lose and slides a little bit. Everything is back into it's place so it's got me stumped. Nothing is broke so I'm not sure if there is something missing for the peg to lock into. It's the one closest to me left leg. Any thoughts?
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Panel Over Oil Dipstick
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SilverSurfer
RT-S PE#0391
Re: Side Panel Over Dipstick
I happened to become and 'expert' at this very early into my Spyder RT ownership. The side panel is held on of course by two types of rubber grommets that install in the fairing frame. If one is checking the oil and yanks the panel too firmly, the motion will sometimes pull the grommets from the frame. Likewise, if one has not moistened the grommets and the retention 'pins' of the side panel before pushing the panel back on, and starts assertively trying to seat the panel, it will sometimes push the grommets inward, right through the frame and down into the well under the oil reservoir (unlikely you'll get them out). That's why the grommets sometimes mysteriously disappear.
Solutions:
1. Many people loose a grommet or two. There are two different types of grommets one needs here. One is actually called an "oval washer", and the other is indeed called a grommet. Both look like grommets; just differently shaped. They are parts 19 (2ea) and 20 (1ea) on the RT-S parts finder schematic. What I did was order several extras of each. I like www.garganos.com up in ohio as a good parts supplier.
2. Regarding taking off and putting on the panel.
a. The removal technique is to loosen the back grommet first, then pull up slightly and forward. this will release the front to 'oval washers.'
b. When putting the panel back on, and with all three grommets in place, one can use a couple of techniques. While it sounds a little gross, you can (1) apply spit to the seating pins and or to the opening and pass-through area of the grommet or (what I do) purchase a little tube of that oral moisturizer stuff that you can get at a drug store. It's like artificial spit. Dab a little onto the pins and around the pass-through of the grommet. The pins will then easily slide through, the panel will seat (make sure the front edge of the panel hooks slightly under the frame). Then the 'spit,' artificial or othewise, will dry and your panel will be held firmly in place.
Hope this helps.
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I happened to become and 'expert' at this very early into my Spyder RT ownership. The side panel is held on of course by two types of rubber grommets that install in the fairing frame. If one is checking the oil and yanks the panel too firmly, the motion will sometimes pull the grommets from the frame. Likewise, if one has not moistened the grommets and the retention 'pins' of the side panel before pushing the panel back on, and starts assertively trying to seat the panel, it will sometimes push the grommets inward, right through the frame and down into the well under the oil reservoir (unlikely you'll get them out). That's why the grommets sometimes mysteriously disappear.
Solutions:
1. Many people loose a grommet or two. There are two different types of grommets one needs here. One is actually called an "oval washer", and the other is indeed called a grommet. Both look like grommets; just differently shaped. They are parts 19 (2ea) and 20 (1ea) on the RT-S parts finder schematic. What I did was order several extras of each. I like www.garganos.com up in ohio as a good parts supplier.
2. Regarding taking off and putting on the panel.
a. The removal technique is to loosen the back grommet first, then pull up slightly and forward. this will release the front to 'oval washers.'
b. When putting the panel back on, and with all three grommets in place, one can use a couple of techniques. While it sounds a little gross, you can (1) apply spit to the seating pins and or to the opening and pass-through area of the grommet or (what I do) purchase a little tube of that oral moisturizer stuff that you can get at a drug store. It's like artificial spit. Dab a little onto the pins and around the pass-through of the grommet. The pins will then easily slide through, the panel will seat (make sure the front edge of the panel hooks slightly under the frame). Then the 'spit,' artificial or othewise, will dry and your panel will be held firmly in place.
Hope this helps.
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NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
A couple things I might add. Look in the splash pan below the engine, and on the plumbing next to the engine, and you may find your old grommet(s). I suggest you carefully glue them in with RTV silicone or 3M Super Weatherstrip Adhesive. That will help them stay put, especially if the pins or grommets are moistened before panel replacement. Yes, spit works fine!
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
BTW, they are hard to spot if they fall inside. Easier if you take off the side panels, but that is even more work...and even more grommets. They do hide easily, so run your hands around things if you can, and use a very strong light. Don't ask how I know. :roflblack:
The grommets are originally glued in from behind with four dots of a hard glue, like hot glue. This breaks easily. The more resilient silicone or SWA will hold better, and can be applied in the groove from the front before you install the grommet.
Checking the oil
When I check the oil in my spyder all I do is loosen the top two locks and pull the top of the panel down and that gives you enough room to check the oil without taking the panel completly off.
When I check the oil in my spyder all I do is loosen the top two locks and pull the top of the panel down and that gives you enough room to check the oil without taking the panel completly off.
ridesilver2009
New member
Grommet fix
Use zip ties and di-electric grease on the grommets and pegs. End of problem.
Dealers should do this as goodwill or common since on PDI. We've done it for years on the Goldwings. Works great
Use zip ties and di-electric grease on the grommets and pegs. End of problem.
Dealers should do this as goodwill or common since on PDI. We've done it for years on the Goldwings. Works great
rineer4635
New member
How?
Do you use a small zip tie and go right around the grommet? Apparently the pin still fits through the hole even with the zip tie there? I just lost one this evening!! Thanks
ThreeWheels
Active member
Remember that the newer style panel also has a plastic hook that needs to catch on the leading edge before the pins slip into the grommets. If the hook is not engaged properly, it will actually hold the panel off from its proper mounting location.
Gluing the grommets in is a good solution. I used black RTV from an auto parts store that's used for sealing gaskets.
Gluing the grommets in is a good solution. I used black RTV from an auto parts store that's used for sealing gaskets.
Jornie1
New member
Grommets and Oval Washers
Here is a trouble free and low cost place to get your grommets online:
http://www.bigbikeparts.com/Inventory/Navision/52-691?catalogNo=
W'eve all been through this. I actually lost a panel due to my own lack of close attention to how I attached the panel... Oops.. about a $250 lesson learned.. We also learned from Lamonster...with a clean dry surface, glue those little buggers inplace, then lube them with silicone grease or something that is friendly to rubber... If you have an RT, make sure you have the front & rear tabs attached properly. See thumbnail. Feel it, test it before going very far or fast... Len
Here is a trouble free and low cost place to get your grommets online:
http://www.bigbikeparts.com/Inventory/Navision/52-691?catalogNo=
W'eve all been through this. I actually lost a panel due to my own lack of close attention to how I attached the panel... Oops.. about a $250 lesson learned.. We also learned from Lamonster...with a clean dry surface, glue those little buggers inplace, then lube them with silicone grease or something that is friendly to rubber... If you have an RT, make sure you have the front & rear tabs attached properly. See thumbnail. Feel it, test it before going very far or fast... Len
Bob Denman
New member
Note to self: Buy some spare grommets and throw them into a baggie in the frunk! :f_spider:
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Glue them in, too...or have the dealer do it. There is a Service Bulletin to that effect. Also, each time you replace a panel, pull on it afterward. If it moves readily, you have pushed the grommet through. Easier to pull the panel and retrieve the errant grommet, than to lose the panel going down the road.
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