I know we have beat the windshield issue to death, but I hope folks will weigh in one more time. Stock BRP shield is fine for in town cruising in hot weather. BRP Tour shield is fine for 55 - 60 mph road speeds and looks nice on the bike. At freeway speeds, wind is pretty heavy and noise constantly triggers our Chatterbox VOX mics. I can't deal with 24" shield that may protect, but look out of place on the Spyder (personal opinion). I also can't see paying more than $200 for a piece of plastic. Before everyone jumps me, I know that design, testing, tooling, production costs need to be recovered in the price, but if BRP as the leader in overpricing their accessories can have a shield maker produce their tour shield for $159, I would think others could do it for $200. It seems that a lot of the air comes around the shield between the shield and the mirrors. The Calsci seems to address this. Minor adjustment to clutch lever would be worth added protection and it is less than $200. I really like their aerodynamic theory, but theory doesn't always prove out. Bumble bees ignore theory and fly anyway. I am 5'10", but would not go bigger than the 22" M size which is 5" higher than the BRP Tour. I believe that is the size that Magic Man tested before becoming a Calsci dealer. I also think Lamonster tried Calsci and ended up cutting it down to just a bit larger than BRP Tour. Mel's Monster Garage looks like a bargain at $149, but it is only 3" higher than the BRP Tour and does not address the wind between the shield and mirrors. Being in Michigan, I would love to support a Michigan business, but performace is critical. I don't think there are any other shields in the below $200 price range. Those with either product, please weigh in. With fall here, I need better protection, but I do not want to have a collection of shields through trial and error and checkbook depletion.
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tatt2r
PhotoShop Master
I'm in same position you are .... except for height .... I'm 5'7" and i just bought a used windshield off one of the other spyder lovers it is a calsci 23 inch i havent got it yet but i'll let you know ...i too dont mind the wind i bought the shield for fall and winter months in new england ...
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Windshields are unfortunately one of those things that you kinda have to try until you find what works.
Coming form V-Stroms I found that two gents the same height, same inseam & same arm length could get wildly divergent results with the same set up because of posture and/or body build. Sounds weird, but it's true.
The Stroms with adjustable shields being mature (5 years) there's lots of data and options available. Most folks end up using a Madstad adjustable windshield bracket.
The stock Strom mount is adjustable for height, but not tilt. The Madstad works very much like the Industries 7 shield/mount. It also puts more space between the shield and the fairing, letting more air up the back side of the shield, which breaks up the air spilling over the top.
I found that I could get by with a shorter and wider shield by being able to adjust the tilt angle. It appears that the Industries 7 set up also allows some air up the backside of the screen. I'd like to see them offer just the bracket to mess around with as I really don't care for the looks of the shield itself.
Maybe Industries 7 or someone else (Madstad?) will step up with an adjustable bracket by itself. You'd probably have to drill new mounting holes in the shield though.
Another possible option is the MRA Touring Extension Spoiler. Those that I know of using them like them, but they were using a MRA windshield/spoiler combo, not just the spoiler.
It would be interesting if the spoiler worked with the stock shield. I'd try it, but since I don't have a Spyder yet it'd be a little tough.
Coming form V-Stroms I found that two gents the same height, same inseam & same arm length could get wildly divergent results with the same set up because of posture and/or body build. Sounds weird, but it's true.
The Stroms with adjustable shields being mature (5 years) there's lots of data and options available. Most folks end up using a Madstad adjustable windshield bracket.
The stock Strom mount is adjustable for height, but not tilt. The Madstad works very much like the Industries 7 shield/mount. It also puts more space between the shield and the fairing, letting more air up the back side of the shield, which breaks up the air spilling over the top.
I found that I could get by with a shorter and wider shield by being able to adjust the tilt angle. It appears that the Industries 7 set up also allows some air up the backside of the screen. I'd like to see them offer just the bracket to mess around with as I really don't care for the looks of the shield itself.
Maybe Industries 7 or someone else (Madstad?) will step up with an adjustable bracket by itself. You'd probably have to drill new mounting holes in the shield though.
Another possible option is the MRA Touring Extension Spoiler. Those that I know of using them like them, but they were using a MRA windshield/spoiler combo, not just the spoiler.
It would be interesting if the spoiler worked with the stock shield. I'd try it, but since I don't have a Spyder yet it'd be a little tough.
M
Marcel July
Guest
Hello there,
sure there are several larger size Windshields available under $200 !
www.SpyderWindshields.com
for $289 you can have also the real "fully in height" adjustable also.
Link:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=spyderwindshields&search_type=&aq=f
Don't get frustrated:thumbup:
There are several options you can use to get the right one.
I think that if you are 5.10" a Windshield size from about 27" to 28"
would work nice.
Cheers
Marcel July
sure there are several larger size Windshields available under $200 !
www.SpyderWindshields.com
for $289 you can have also the real "fully in height" adjustable also.
Link:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=spyderwindshields&search_type=&aq=f
Don't get frustrated:thumbup:
There are several options you can use to get the right one.
I think that if you are 5.10" a Windshield size from about 27" to 28"
would work nice.
Cheers
Marcel July
bjt
Very Helpful Member
I just checked out the link and am really intrigued by about four of the items they offer. The micro swirl edging looks like it would improve the BRP Touring Windshield. Of course, by the time you pay for the BRP windshield and $40 or more for the Micro swirl edging, you are at or above the cost of many of the other aftermarket windshields. Their Night Cutters look like they could be a viable option to the BRP fog lights. The Quick Scans provide a variety of mounting choices and a nicely finished look to a blind spot mirror.
Thanks for the link HDXBONES.
Internet search for reviews on Micro Swirl are very mixed with many finding no difference. A few seem to think it reduces noise, but not many big thumbs up.
bjt
Very Helpful Member
Well, like you said, with the money back guarantee it may be worth a try. As long as they don't make you jump through hoops to get your money back.
Oklahoma Spyder
New member
spoke to a bpr factory rep friday he said they were coming out with a taller windshield in 1 or 2 months??/ Hope
Maybe I'll wait to see what BRP comes up with. They certainly have had the benefit of all the aftermarket makers. Taller doesn't always solve the problem and there's a point at which it's just too tall for some of us. The look of the Spyder starts to get wierd with some of the real tall shields I've seen. It is a matter of personal taste, but I'm still looking for something in the 20"-22" range and $200.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
I agree that taller is not necessarily better. They certainly need to add the flip out at the top, which their touring shield lacks. The shields that are wider at the mirror area seem to be a good idea, and sure help the looks. I also stick by my original idea that the shields need to be curved back toward the rider, to make them closer. Harder to build, but I would pay extra for a compound curved windshield.
There are some interesting aerodynamics going on with the Spyder. Riding in the rain and dark Saturday night convinced me of that. I could easily see the droplet movement in the reflection of the lights. I had Rain-X on both the Spyder shield and my helmet shield. The water stayed put! I have never had that happen, especially on a face shield. The wind usually hits it then rolls it right off. It is apparent that the air is not really flowing, just turbulent. The drops move around, but stay put. The stock windshield was the same. Nothing moved. I think the airstream is broken by the trunk and the point on the cowl, and begins to do funny things long before it reaches the windshield. We may be limited no matter what design shows up next.
-Scotty
Scotty,
I couldn't agree more. I would love to see an airflow test of the Spyder and an assortment of windshields. I think that big trunk create turbulence that is so different than any motorcycle on the road that it really makes shield design a challenge. Maybe that's why the Corbin seems to work since its faring takes the trunk turbulence and deals with it before it gets to the windshield. I'm just not going to spend that kind of money.
I couldn't agree more. I would love to see an airflow test of the Spyder and an assortment of windshields. I think that big trunk create turbulence that is so different than any motorcycle on the road that it really makes shield design a challenge. Maybe that's why the Corbin seems to work since its faring takes the trunk turbulence and deals with it before it gets to the windshield. I'm just not going to spend that kind of money.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Not to mention that it makes most of the windshields actually look pretty...to my eye, at least.
-Scotty
The MRA bracket would be perfect if it weren't curved. The issue that differentiates the possibilities of true rider comfort (touring) can be seen on any Goldwing or Harley. The shield is wider from botom to top. The Goldwing shield is even wider at the shoulders and creates an envelope around the rider.
The steering of the spyder prevents a mirror to mirror shield. The MRA bracket would (it appears) allow you to add to each side. The offset bracket would push the sides away from the rider and allow full extension of the steering. The brackets would need to allow a straight piece of Lexan.
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2710/698/
You add the sliding mechanism of the Madstad and I think you'd have it.
The steering of the spyder prevents a mirror to mirror shield. The MRA bracket would (it appears) allow you to add to each side. The offset bracket would push the sides away from the rider and allow full extension of the steering. The brackets would need to allow a straight piece of Lexan.
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2710/698/
You add the sliding mechanism of the Madstad and I think you'd have it.
Bionic Pope
New member
No - stay away from this units. Very much troubles with them from many spyder users.
IND 7 or Calsi much beter units.
ataDude
Mod Maniac
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