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On Two Wheels!!
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bullant12
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It's possible... We took a trike training course with Goldwing Road Riders of America (GWRRA) in Alabama and some of the closed training courses we got the tires to lift at slow speeds but sharp turns.
Bob Denman
New member
Depending on your suspension settings; you can get a wheel up just about any time that you set your mind to do it! :thumbup:
But why would you want to? :shocked:
But why would you want to? :shocked:
Hberninger
New member
I thought that would activate the Nanny. If lifting a front wheel doesn't activate it, what does when cornering?
SpyderWolf
New member
As you already found out you can definitely do it. There is a certain point where the yaw sensor will react to the height of the tilt and the nanny will kick in to try to drop that wheel back to the ground. You must also remember even though it may be a bit more difficult to flip a Spyder on its side, it can still happen if you get too crazy with it.
daveinva
New member
Oh, you definitely can lift a wheel on the Spyder, as you now know! :shocked:
The good news is, with proper technique it's rare to lift a wheel, and if you get in a real bad spot, the Nanny will kick in to adjust power and braking in order to bring your wheel down.
That said, I find that it's useful, if not absolutely essential, for new Spyder riders to discover *when* the Nanny kicks in, and how that feels, so they're not surprised when and if it does kick in. If you don't know how it feels, it can be a little upsetting (think of the first time you ever drove an ABS-equipped car, for instance). Worse, it can be upsetting at *just the precise moment* in your riding when you DON'T want it to be upsetting, i.e. if you're getting into enough trouble in a corner to trip the Nanny, that's probably not a time you want to get into MORE trouble.
I tripped the Nanny a few times in my trike class on an RT, just doing those sharp turns in a parking lot. That's the easiest and safest way to first know what the Nanny feels like, and how it automatically adjusts your power and braking (far better in a parking lot than on a mountain road).
One last note: having upgraded shocks and the anti-sway bar increases the margin of performance on the Spyder, "delaying" when you'll trip the Nanny-- you'll take far sharper corners at higher speeds before you lift a wheel and trip the Nanny. Alas, that's the upside-- the *downside* is that when you finally DO trip the Nanny in those instances, you're taking a far sharper corner at higher speed, leaving you less margin to react than you would have on a bone-stock Spyder (which would have likely tripped the Nanny far earlier). :shocked:
The good news is, with proper technique it's rare to lift a wheel, and if you get in a real bad spot, the Nanny will kick in to adjust power and braking in order to bring your wheel down.
That said, I find that it's useful, if not absolutely essential, for new Spyder riders to discover *when* the Nanny kicks in, and how that feels, so they're not surprised when and if it does kick in. If you don't know how it feels, it can be a little upsetting (think of the first time you ever drove an ABS-equipped car, for instance). Worse, it can be upsetting at *just the precise moment* in your riding when you DON'T want it to be upsetting, i.e. if you're getting into enough trouble in a corner to trip the Nanny, that's probably not a time you want to get into MORE trouble.
I tripped the Nanny a few times in my trike class on an RT, just doing those sharp turns in a parking lot. That's the easiest and safest way to first know what the Nanny feels like, and how it automatically adjusts your power and braking (far better in a parking lot than on a mountain road).
One last note: having upgraded shocks and the anti-sway bar increases the margin of performance on the Spyder, "delaying" when you'll trip the Nanny-- you'll take far sharper corners at higher speeds before you lift a wheel and trip the Nanny. Alas, that's the upside-- the *downside* is that when you finally DO trip the Nanny in those instances, you're taking a far sharper corner at higher speed, leaving you less margin to react than you would have on a bone-stock Spyder (which would have likely tripped the Nanny far earlier). :shocked:
jtpollock
New member
I have been a two wheeler for almost 30 years and I have hade my spyder for just under 1 year but I have over 17,000 miles on it I ride it hard and I know what it will do and wont do this one just set me back a little. As always everyone here is full of good information. I think I need to spend some time in the parkinglot testing its not the kind of thing you want to do with your mate on the back. :thumbup::yes:. jtpollock
MouthPiece
Banged Up Member
As in those "embankments" at Daytona Speedway???
:yikes::yikes::yikes:
I have fond memories.
Chris
Bob Denman
New member
When Nanny kicks in; you'll probably feel it as a "softening" of the power delivery...
Just like somebody yanked a plugwire! :shocked:
Just like somebody yanked a plugwire! :shocked:
SpyderWolf
New member
Ah, um, yes, that does cause the nanny to kick in.
pps: It also throws DPS, ABS, Transmission, Check Engine, Limp Mode, and a few others notices I forgot about across the screen. :banghead:My memories are not so fond of that moment, but I did learn a valueable lesson. :roflblack:
To be honest though, that event did not scare me. I had one happen while running The Dragon that severely increased the pucker factor as I felt the weight distribution shift and thought I was too far gone for the nanny to assist. Fortunately, as I dove for the left front the engine jay braked and everything set back down. It was a harder set down than I have experienced before, and do not want to experience that feeling again. nojoke
I found that out this weekend too! Taking a hairpin left at something over the recommended speed. We had been running pretty hard over a mountain pass :clap: and I was already hanging off the inside when I saw the left front tire leave the ground. I also learned the Spyder understeers if you take it past physics will allow. Not like a bike where you can just lean harder till your knee touches the ground. :banghead: Has anyone ever heard of a Spyder flipping? :yikes:
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
It has happened...usually when someone hits a curb. Miss Nanny will try real hard to save your behind, but she's only so good. If you try hard enough, physics will win.
Chupaca
New member
Look ahead..!!
Never done it myself but have followed others and watched their wheel leave the ground. My suspension is set a bit tighter but this will clue you to slow down some. I ryde two up and will not do crazy but solo I will let go some but still want to get home safe without a scolding from nanny...!!hyea:
Never done it myself but have followed others and watched their wheel leave the ground. My suspension is set a bit tighter but this will clue you to slow down some. I ryde two up and will not do crazy but solo I will let go some but still want to get home safe without a scolding from nanny...!!
hyea:
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
I have only had two experiences with "nanny". Both were hydroplaning incidents. Both times nanny kicked in the "nanny" light awoke on the screen.
As others have said, it is possible to flip a :spyder2: if you are driving it such that physics take over. I try to avoid that situation by not pushing the limits during regular operation. Thats JMHO.
As others have said, it is possible to flip a :spyder2: if you are driving it such that physics take over. I try to avoid that situation by not pushing the limits during regular operation. Thats JMHO.
SpyderWolf
New member
Oh yeah, I forgot about the VSS Failure at the Daytona Speedway as well. :banghead: :roflblack:
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