No disrespect, it is tragic that a Spyder Owner was lost, but this is the prime example of why I don't go to bars anymore. Let alone the fact that a DUI would have been detrimental to my former and my future jobs.
Someone posted in the other thread that Mr. Pugh had his driving privileges suspended for life. Obviously, someone figured out he had insurance (Progressive) because their name appears in the report and he does have a Ohio drivers license with the number shown on the report so that makes me wonder the accuracy of the other post. This is a preliminary report and doesn't contain much beyond the investigating officer's initial observations so there is more to find out about this accident. Typically, final reports take around 30 days to complete. Blood was probably drawn for analysis, etc. Perhaps witnesses were interviewed if they learned where he was coming from. We don't know everything.
There is no obvious reason for the Spyder to have left the road and crash the way it did, i.e. no turns in the road, etc. so easy to guess at something. Unit 1 is the Spyder. Had there been other vehicles involved, they would be described as Unit 2, etc.
The officer indicates possible use of alcohol or drugs but you cannot tell what that is based upon from the little information in this report.
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Failed to negotiate a curve , hit a ditch and overturned and pronounced dead at the scene.
Sorry, that isn't supported by the accident report.
I'm wondering if part of the cause might have been from a salesman telling them the spyder is almost impossible to flip and cannot go into a turn too fast.
Not relevant, even if true. Accident reports says clear skies, dry weather, straight road
If you don't have the common sense to understand what you are buying and how it works and then go out driving it like you are an experience operator of this equipment you are asking for trouble.
True under any circumstances. Exponentially more important if you choose to drive while impaired (drugs or alcohol). Accident reports says clear skies, dry weather, straight road
I live about 10 miles from this scene and went to investigate it. It was a straight stretch and they had spent some time at a bar, she was driving and had 4 ONVI suspention and he had lost his driving privages for LIFE . Where it happened there could have a animal run in front cause her to miss it but lost it. Just glad that no others life were lost.
Crash report shows insurance coverage and license plate and drivers license number for Mr. Pugh. If suspended for life, not sure how they would had found a license number for him. Progressive Insurance would have done their own check too. I think we need to let this play out and wait for the final report.
Mr. Orange was confused by previous poster using the term ONVI. I assume he meant OMVI.
Operating a
Motor
Vehicle under the
Influence. Same as OVI and DUI essentially.
So has any of this been reported as factual by the investigating agencies?
I linked to the actual CRASH REPORT
here. Bob's comments are about some of the statements made in the initial thread that covered this same subject. The report does provide some initial information, but when there is a death, it is not intended to be conclusive. There will be a more thorough investigation completed. Hopefully, I will be able to get a copy and post here.
Lots of speculation on what could of happened. Certainly an autopsy will reveal any chemical contributions.
The CRASH REPORT indicates tests were given, probably a blood draw. I will post the final report if I can get a copy of it. Usually takes at least 30 days.
We always want answers, understandably, but sometimes accidents happen for no apparant reason.
Possible no further explanation is forthcoming. But alcohol/drug impairment appears to be the culprit.
Hey guys, I wouldn't be too quick to blame the accident on speed, driving beyond the limits of the machine, etc. Having spent my life in the medical profession and the last 8 years living in a retirement community, I can say that there could be a medical cause as to why the Spyder left the road. Unfortunately, we will not have access to the autopsy report.
Actually, not sure how the public record laws work in your state, but in Ohio, unlike living people, there is no expectation of privacy by the dead. A person's private medical record is protected, but the autopsy report will be available. The final police report will draw on it significantly to make conclusions as to the cause of the accident.
CRASH REPORTS in Ohio are intended to assist in the evaluation of accidents for everyone, not just those involved directly. For example, numerous accidents at the same intersection may lead to stop lights being installed; signs posted further away from the actual intersection to remind drivers of the impending intersection and stop sign; etc. CRASH REPORT must be filed by all law enforcement agencies with the State so possible public safety risks can be evaluated and determined.
ray:...Mike, very sad
