Official BRP Coil Pack fix

[Tripod]

Has anyone gotten their Spyder coil pack fixed with the BRP parts? Has anyone been given, or heard, of an expected date the dealers will have these parts? I was stricken by the malady yesterday, twice. It wouldn't go into gear, then when it did it wouldn't upshift. Yes, it's an SE-5. This was the first ride after the steering fix...it's getting tedious folks !

Tripod :gaah:

 

[Longlegs]

Are you talking about the ground wire deal? My dealer has the new 3 way ground harness waiting for me to bring it in.

 

[krb1945]

I did my...

own harness. It took all of 15 minutes to do up the harness and install it to the frame. The SE5 is shifting better and the SM5 doesn't seem to miss on rough roads like it did before the mod. I used 12 ga wire with an extra crimp. The SM5 I don't believe it was in the BRP modification but I did it anyway because it missed some at low speed when on rough roads.

It is a simple thing to do for anyone with just basic skill levels. Good or expert skills you're done almost before you get started.

 

[wanabegood]

Recalls

I had my 09 SE5 updated to resolve the ground wire and steering issues. The two recalls resolved my problems with backfiring ( i have a hindel), and occassional problem with downshift gear slippage. Power steering is nice and smooth at any speed.

 

[GaryTheBadger]

There's got to be another Spyder owner in So Cal who can cut, crimp, solder and install a couple of wires for you.

 

[bjt]

(I did my) own harness. It took all of 15 minutes to do up the harness and install it to the frame. The SE5 is shifting better and the SM5 doesn't seem to miss on rough roads like it did before the mod. I used 12 ga wire with an extra crimp. The SM5 I don't believe it was in the BRP modification but I did it anyway because it missed some at low speed when on rough roads.

It is a simple thing to do for anyone with just basic skill levels. Good or expert skills you're done almost before you get started.

Like krb1945 says, this is so simple (and cheap) to do it yourself that you shouldn't have to wait for BRP and your dealer to get around to getting the parts and doing this for you if it's the difference between you riding your Spyder or not.

 

[xpeschon]

I thought there was only one ground wire being installed.. I plan on doing this myself but again I thought it was only one wire,,,, Are you folks installing 2 wires? And if so where does the second one go?? I know where the first one goes but confussed on the other one you guys are talking about... Help me out here,, Pic would be nice if you could provide it..
Thanks in advance\
Joe

 

[3wheeldemon]

I thought there was only one ground wire being installed.. I plan on doing this myself but again I thought it was only one wire,,,, Are you folks installing 2 wires? And if so where does the second one go?? I know where the first one goes but confussed on the other one you guys are talking about... Help me out here,, Pic would be nice if you could provide it..
Thanks in advance
Joe

Check this thread, post #8:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=129066&highlight=ground+wire+picture#post129066

3WD

 

[bone crusher]

own harness. It took all of 15 minutes to do up the harness and install it to the frame. The SE5 is shifting better and the SM5 doesn't seem to miss on rough roads like it did before the mod. I used 12 ga wire with an extra crimp. The SM5 I don't believe it was in the BRP modification but I did it anyway because it missed some at low speed when on rough roads.

It is a simple thing to do for anyone with just basic skill levels. Good or expert skills you're done almost before you get started.

Interesting...there is no coil wire fix for the SM5. BRP said no need as all problems were with the SE5...can't do any harm putting it in the manual, but it shouldn't affect anything...

 

[Tom in NM]

I had my 3k service . . . .

. . . . at my dealership on 7/24. They only heard about the Recall and Wire Warranty work when they plugged in my SE5. Of course, they did not have the wire parts so they ordered them. They use the term; "Back Ordered", as often as some people use the phrase; "You know?".

I stopped in 8/7 to ask if it was in, after 45 minutes of them checking inventory and looking around, "Oh, we were just going to call you."

I am scheduled for installation on 8/13. (by the way, it is a free warranty fix on my SE5 - not sure if it is free for SM5s)

Bottom line seems to be that the BRP Wire parts seem to be available within a week or so, if the Dealership orders them.

Tom

 

[Tripod]

There's got to be another Spyder owner in So Cal who can cut, crimp, solder and install a couple of wires for you.

I'm capable of doing the fix. It's a matter of timing. The Spyder is going in this week for a new GPS so I don't want to do it if it can be done while it's in the shop. I'm just trying to determine from members if their dealers have the "official" parts in-house. If mine doesn't, I'll do myself.

Tripod :doorag:

 

[bone crusher]

. . . . at my dealership on 7/24. They only heard about the Recall and Wire Warranty work when they plugged in my SE5. Of course, they did not have the wire parts so they ordered them. They use the term; "Back Ordered", as often as some people use the phrase; "You know?".

I stopped in 8/7 to ask if it was in, after 45 minutes of them checking inventory and looking around, "Oh, we were just going to call you."

I am scheduled for installation on 8/13. (by the way, it is a free warranty fix on my SE5 - not sure if it is free for SM5s)

Bottom line seems to be that the BRP Wire parts seem to be available within a week or so, if the Dealership orders them.

Tom

The SM5 is NOT covered...not needed...some here are doing it anyway, but BRP did not find a problem with the SM5s...(we still have other recall stuff to do though)...

 

[Badasz]

SE5 Shifting

Had the same problem with my :spyder:an SE5 after the gnd wire fix and the recall fix. Couldn't shift out of gears and wouldn't automatically down shift. It seemed to be an intermittent problem :dontknow: as for two days it was acting up before I went to the dealer :gaah:. On that day I started it and it went to "N" so I drove it out it shifted fine :dontknow:. I know its probably just a bad component I hope they can find it.

 

[krb1945]

The SM5 is not...

on the recall for the coil ground. Rather that is what I was told. The reason I put it on my SM is because I get on some pretty rough roads and I was getting a low speed miss when bouncing over them.

I had noticed the coil system was not a rigid mount... semi flexible... and I thought it may be losing the ground intermittently. After I installed the ground from the radiator mount bolt to the coil mount bolt and then to the frame ground bolt it no longer has that little miss when bouncing over the washboard.

All should bare in mind the spyder is still an experimental machine and we will find various little adjustments such as more or better grounds will make them run better because they are controlled by computers.

If we keep doing this :chat: we will all gain from each other.

 

[Studybaker Bob]

Gear Shift problem

Sounds like some of your problems are like some of mine. Carlo of CanAm service has authorized the installation of the new & improved gear box position sensor 2008 se5. Suposedly this will cure other rough running & shifting symptoms &/or problems. Hopefully will be installed sometime next week. Will keep you updated.

 

[Tom in NM]

Anything more about . . . . .

Sounds like some of your problems are like some of mine. Carlo of CanAm service has authorized the installation of the new & improved gear box position sensor 2008 se5. Suposedly this will cure other rough running & shifting symptoms &/or problems. Hopefully will be installed sometime next week. Will keep you updated.

. . . . what the "new" and "improvements" are?

I am fine. My 2008 SE5 is doing real well - so far, and I have the extended warranty. But, it would be nice to know what improvements were made. ( as if I could understand them and what the impacts are )

Just wondering,

Tom

 

[ataDude]

. . . . what the "new" and "improvements" are?

I am fine. My 2008 SE5 is doing real well - so far, and I have the extended warranty. But, it would be nice to know what improvements were made. ( as if I could understand them and what the impacts are )

Just wondering,

Tom

Some of the Generation I Gear Position Sensors had a few internal solder problems which caused some random signals (and steering problems) on the CANBUS / processors.

Gen II was released last fall. The only "new and improved" concerned the previously inferior solder quality.

See this thread for the complete background:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7831
.

 

[Tom in NM]

Some of the Generation I Gear Position Sensors had a few internal solder problems which caused some random signals (and steering problems) on the CANBUS / processors.

Gen II was released last fall. The only "new and improved" concerned the previously inferior solder quality.

See this thread for the complete background:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7831
.

Thanks for the info. Greatly appreciated.

Tom

 

[xpeschon]

After all the talk about the grounding strap I decided to do this last night. Went very well. Thanks for the info.. I didn't notice a change to anything like better shifting, sounds from the engine. I drove it to work today and for the first time I did hear a strange noice though that kind of alarmed me a bit,, as it automaticlly shifted from 2nd to 1st as I was slowing down for a stop sign there was a funny POP that came from the engine area, kind of sounded like bike tire that just ran over a nail and popped,, Any thoughts on this? other then that it seems to be fine..

Joe

 

[Tom in NM]

I had the . . . . .

. . . Coil Pack Fix / Grounding wire done at my (former) dealership today. I got to see it before it went in, it is just one wire, but it is in a Y configuration. There were some bolts and washers and plastic tie downs in the pack. I would have liked to read the print-out of the BRP Service/Warranty Bulletin that they had printed out ( it looked like it was about 5 pages, but it could have had some others combined with it ), but I don't think those are for mere mortals.

Took about an hour, but they didn't work all that time on it. Probably less than 15 minutes.

I had no problems before and noticed nothing after - as it should be.

I don't know if anyone posted what the Official wiring looks like, but if anyone is interested, weather permitting, I plan on having the panels off tomorrow and can post the pics.

Let me know.

Tom