Now we need to be on the lookout for E15 gas!

[jiffy]

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) defines E15 as gasoline blended with 10.5% to 15% ethanol. In 2011, EPA approved E15 for use in light-duty conventional vehicles of model year 2001 and newer, through a Clean Air Act waiver request, based on significant testing and research funded by the U.S. Department of Energy. Stations are not required to sell E15, but some have started offering E15 due to state and federal incentives for upgrading equipment and better profit margins when compared with regular gasoline. E15 is available in 30 states at just over 2,300 stations. E10 remains the limit for passenger vehicles older than model year 2001 and for other non-road and small engines and vehicles that use gasoline, such as lawn mowers, motorcycles, and boats.

Vehicles approved for E15 use:
Flexible fuel vehicles
Conventional vehicles of model year 2001 and newer.

Vehicles prohibited from using E15:
All motorcycles
All vehicles with heavy-duty engines, such as school buses and delivery trucks
All off-road vehicles, such as boats and snowmobiles
All engines in off-road equipment, such as chain saws and gasoline lawn mowers
All conventional vehicles older than model year 2001.

 

[2dogs]

It's my understanding that octane reduces the temperature at which gasoline ignites, and ethanol is supposed to make that a clean burn. It is supposed to oxygenate the gas. Engines that have 12:1 compression should have around 100% octane to run efficiently. My muscle car can run on mid grade octane as long as I stay out of full throttle because it has 10:1 compression. However, guess who has 12:1 compression? 1330's.
file:///D:/Owner/Downloads/2016_RT%20Spec%20Sheet%20EN_Final.pdf

 

[ARtraveler]

My take on all this is that E15 is going to be available. Yes, our owners manuals say not to use it in the Spyders, so I will not be using it.

There will still be choices, so you can spend what you want.

It's just another ploy to placate the public. Last go around, Alaska did away with the gas tax, which was high. Gas got cheaper for awihle, but that took care of the funding for roads, etc.

Just be careful in trying to implicate one person or political party on this one. They are ALL in on it, and as usual, we are going to be the payers. :bowdown:

 

[2dogs]

But be sure to balance this 'general advise' with the owners manual statement not to use E15.

Try to share credible info so to help SL's to make their own decisions.

 

[dpetrick]

Also be aware the E15 is sometimes called Super 88, for 88 octane. In very fine print on the sticker, it says it is E15. Very confusing.

 

[Little Blue]

Do NOT Use E15

:chat:...So for our Spyders, Do NOT use E15. ....:gaah:

 

[ARtraveler]

:chat:...So for our Spyders, Do NOT use E15. ....:gaah:

That is per the manual. :bowdown:

 

[Raven]

I don't know how it works in the US, but here in Ontario most pumps show this.
May contain.
Regular = 10% ethanol
Mid Grade = 5% ethanol
Premium = no ethanol

 

[spyderdave]

Just a quick update from the State of Iowa.....; the following bill mandating E15 be sold at gas pumps by 2026 passed both House & Senate and is on Governor's desk to be signed.

"Under the bill in the Iowa Legislature, gas stations that open after Jan. 1, 2023, would have to sell E-15, gas blended with at least 15 percent ethanol, from at least half of their dispensers. Existing gas stations with compatible infrastructure would have to sell E-15 from at least one dispenser by 2026. If a gas station upgrades its underground infrastructure, it would have to offer E-15 from at least 50 percent of its dispensers."

Yeah. :sour:

 

[PMK]

Our recent trip 4000 miles from Florida to Maine and back, with associated driving around, I found several gas stations with E15 fuel.
Since most modern gas stations use the one nozzle for regular, mid and premium fuel, to prevent mixing in E15, that fuel utilized it own filler nozzle and hose.
Not at all making this political, just rolling along, and posting what I noticed.