Bob Denman
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That's the ONLY reason why I never moved to Canada! :roflblack: :thumbup:
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Not much outrage regarding the YouTube shooter
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Trickie Dick
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Well what is it 2006, 2008 or ? If you're going to preach, you need to get your facts straight Again this 2008 decision was a 5-4 decision but you and your cronies act as it this was Moses coming down from the Mount with the 10 commandments. You do realize this position could change with the make-up of the court. If that were to happen what would your position be? Civil disobedience?
BTW, how about the Waffle House shooting with your beloved hunting rife, the AR15. Designed specifically for squirrels and humans. Didn't read if he had a large capacity magazine though. I guess it was big enough to kill 4 people with what he had.
I don't want your guns bob, I do want your assault style weapons, your bump stocks and your large capacity magazines. I also want the right to discuss this without being labeled unpatriotic by... well you know who by, don't you.
BTW, how about the Waffle House shooting with your beloved hunting rife, the AR15. Designed specifically for squirrels and humans. Didn't read if he had a large capacity magazine though. I guess it was big enough to kill 4 people with what he had.
I don't want your guns bob, I do want your assault style weapons, your bump stocks and your large capacity magazines. I also want the right to discuss this without being labeled unpatriotic by... well you know who by, don't you.
Bob Denman
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I never said that you were in-Patriotic: I just think that you're a full-blown idiot... :dontknow:
Which is your right, and your headache.
Which is your right, and your headache.
wyliec
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Aside from all the bickering up to now, you haven't really given a scenario in which you say a majority of the military would side with the populace to protect the Constitution, while disregarding orders from their superiors. I'm retired military, and I respected all the presidents while I was on duty. Sad to say, I have absolutely no respect for the current president. The way it looks now, the military's orders would come down on twitter, or some other social network.
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SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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i think tom arnold used to
kep-up
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How about you go back and actually read my post? And TRY to understand it? Then if you feel like making another less than intelligent remark, go ahead! And actually I couldn't care less if you retired from Atila the Hun's Horde, (Btw, I do thank you for your service) you really should try to actually read the comments before you respond.
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You can believe what you want to but it doesn't change the facts. The military will follow orders as they always have. They have been shooting civilians when told to at least since Vietnam.
National Guard? Anybody remember Kent State?
General Custer and his ilk? Murder of innocents?
How about our Civil War? Brother against brother.
Nope, you are delusional if you think a corrupt government would not just label you militia-men as enemies of the State and order the military and police to put down your insurrection.
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Bob Denman
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...And do YOU remember the crap storm that ensued? :dontknow:
Machinegunner
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If you don't think we could stand against our military, just look at the rednecks in Afghanistan. They stood up against the Russians and the US.
Bob Denman
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Guerilla tactics can accomplish a lot, when pitted against a vastly superior invading force... :agree:
Dream on. Our military would not be an 'invading force'.
Bob Denman
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If they were invading my Town: they sure as Hell would be!
...And they would be treated as such... nojoke
Or would you prefer that we call them, "Undocumented Immigrants"?
...And they would be treated as such... nojoke
Or would you prefer that we call them, "Undocumented Immigrants"?
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Trickie Dick
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:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
If they were invading my Town: they sure as Hell would be!
...And they would be treated as such... nojoke
Or would you prefer that we call them, "Undocumented Immigrants"?
Trickie Dick
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So rather than deal with the question at hand, you opt to ignore. I think you're trying to hurt my feelings Wow bobby, you do know name calling is a sign of a lack of intelligence or weak mind. Or in your case both.I never said that you were in-Patriotic: I just think that you're a full-blown idiot... :dontknow:
Which is your right, and your headache.
BoilerAnimal
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If the prevailing dystopian scenario were to come to pass, the military would not be an invading force, but would be right at home. Another thing to consider is that the government that was planning such an event would have done their homework to pave the way to indoctrinate those needed in the evil threat that a segment of society posed to the continued existence of "civil society".
That would negate the argument of the military disregarding orders to impose martial law and to, in effect, wage war on the civilian population. As resistance mounted and increased, it could be portrayed as proof of the need for the military action.
Another thing to keep in mind is that there would be no half hearted attempt to overcome any resistance but rather an overwhelming and crushing show of force to remove any thoughts of fighting back. This would in all probability lead to demoralization of those inclined to fight back. Also remember that their numbers would be decimated very quickly to prevent chances of success and any chances of sympathy growing for the resistance. After all, they are the bad guys and will have been cited as such in preparation for this event.
That shows why it is vitally important to exercise our right to vote and by doing so only after becoming informed on the issues that face our country, not on the contrived issues that some politicians want you to focus on. Relying on a candidate's association with a particular political party is NOT a good way to make a decision.
It has been said before and is very true.........you get the kind of government you deserve!
That would negate the argument of the military disregarding orders to impose martial law and to, in effect, wage war on the civilian population. As resistance mounted and increased, it could be portrayed as proof of the need for the military action.
Another thing to keep in mind is that there would be no half hearted attempt to overcome any resistance but rather an overwhelming and crushing show of force to remove any thoughts of fighting back. This would in all probability lead to demoralization of those inclined to fight back. Also remember that their numbers would be decimated very quickly to prevent chances of success and any chances of sympathy growing for the resistance. After all, they are the bad guys and will have been cited as such in preparation for this event.
That shows why it is vitally important to exercise our right to vote and by doing so only after becoming informed on the issues that face our country, not on the contrived issues that some politicians want you to focus on. Relying on a candidate's association with a particular political party is NOT a good way to make a decision.
It has been said before and is very true.........you get the kind of government you deserve!
RinconRyder
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And don't forget General "Dugout Doug" MacArthur and his aide Colonel Eisenhower (yes, THAT Eisenhower) who "cleaned up" the Bonus Marchers.
BoilerAnimal
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A few instances of military force against civilians: https://www.quora.com/Has-the-US-ever-used-military-power-against-its-citizens
Do a little research about the Ludlow Massacre. Labor history has more than just an occasional incursion by the military against citizens.
Do a little research about the Ludlow Massacre. Labor history has more than just an occasional incursion by the military against citizens.
Bob Denman
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If it happened here: do you honestly think that the media would look favorably on the Military firing upon American citizens? :dontknow:
wyliec
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I clicked your link, and read the Hurricane Katrina linked article. I wonder why Bob D. never mentioned that; that would add fuel to the fire.
Bob D., if you do read this, I'm actually not making a back handed comment. But, is this something that slipped by you? I'm not sure if I heard of it just in passing, as I have a brother in the area that was there during Katrina, and is still there.
That being said, if I was in the military I would have followed orders. I can see why it was done.
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BoilerAnimal
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Bob, you are over looking the fact that the groundwork for something such as this would be done over a period of time and could very likely be looked upon favorably by a sizable portion of the media, especially fringe elements or even "fake" outlets used to control perception of events.
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