Nose dive?

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

OMG

mike to be honest, the elkas made a world of difference in the handling of my bike. not just for the nose dive but also for turns at speed. i did find that the bike really leaned on me in turns, so like people say, you need to make the bike your own. so between the elkas, ron sway bar, and lamonts highway pegs i really feel the bike handles much better for me. if you rode my bike you might not like it, but after the money well spent on it by me, it feels much better than it ever did. and i also feel that if i spent the money on something i really didn't need but just in case i ever needed it, than it is money well spent by me...

John , both my posts agree with everything you just wrote above, so you can stop trying to convince me of something ........I already AGREE with you about. .........Mike :thumbup:

 

[DrewNJ]

Modify your brake bias....opcorn:

 

[Mazo EMS2]

If you slam on the brakes in your vehicle, I assume it nose dives a bit too. It's physics. You got stopped and continued, assuming you could see just fine afterwards. No need to do anything special in my opinion. It's not like the bike stuck in the nose dive position....right?

 

[Mtdew57]

Modify your brake bias....opcorn:

Can that be done? It seemed like most of the braking was done by the front and that is why it caused the nose dive.

 

[Bob Denman]

There's a good reason for most of the braking being done by the front wheels... :shocked:
Everything about stopping; conspires to put most of the traction up front...
The system is designed to take advantage of this.
I'd leave the bias alone... nojoke

 

[DrewNJ]

Can that be done? It seemed like most of the braking was done by the front and that is why it caused the nose dive.

Yes

 

[SailnDive]

Anti-dive and anti-squat are fairly simple to build into a suspension. If you aim the front upper A arm down at the rear and the lower A arm up at the rear... the braking action will tend to push up on the front end. Simple trig will allow you to calculate the result between dive forces and lift. The problem is that the more anti-dive you build in...the more bump steer and change in toe you create. Every change that you make in the suspension geometry also changes other things, often not to the good. The Spyder already has a fair amount of anti-dive built in. Just about right I think. Why give up ride comfort to try and avoid the rare hard dip under brakes. On our racing cars, good ride was at the bottom of the list, so we did all we could to keep the already low nose off of the track. I often polished the rivets on the bottom of the nose piece however.