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LDFIREWORKS
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pretty cool mod:agree::2thumbs:
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I have the kewlmetal mirror extensions...these things should come standard on the Spyder...a must-have!
Aussie spyder
New member
mirror extensions
Mirror extensons should be supplied by BRP free of charge. The Spyder is not roadworthy with the short mirror bars.
Greetings Henk
Mirror extensons should be supplied by BRP free of charge. The Spyder is not roadworthy with the short mirror bars.
Greetings Henk
bjt
Very Helpful Member
+1. I always 'take a peek' before lane changes and often try to glance over either shoulder if driving in traffic even if I'm intending to keep going straight just to be aware of where other vehicles are in relation to me. Seems like a lot of people like to get up close to the Spyder and ride for while in my blindspot before speeding up to get right alongside. I think they are trying to figure what a Spyder is and who makes it. :dontknow:
i have always prefer to use mirrors. whether i am driving car, big rig, or ryding spyder. especially on spyder, because i get boxed in by drivers looking at my spyder so many times. i train myself and adjust mirrors constantly and i do believe its safer way to ryde. easier to monitor what's going on around me and less reaction time if i have maneuver according to any sudden moves others make, especially ryding at 80 mph.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
I agree with the "head on a swivel" approach. It is the safest way. I do use my mirrors, but always double check. For both of us, the Spyder mirrors are quite good, with just a little hand interference inside. No mirror extensions needed. I like what you did with the convex mirrors, though. Pretty nice location, and they don't obscure part of the standard mirror. This seems more logical. How are they mounted? Are they a bolt-on or stick-on?
-Scotty
-Scotty
i had put 8k miles on spyder in very short time(about 2 month) and it just was not natural for me to turn my head on spyder because thats not how i drive any other vehicle. i tried couple of other options before this one but did not work too good. this one has suction cup and i thought i would have to use little adhesive or bolt on but with little moisture it's very solid. i bought at pepboys and was originally designed to be mounted on windshield of cars to monitor kids in the back seat of vehicle. I use them to monitor kids, big and small around me gaga-ing over my spyder.I agree with the "head on a swivel" approach. It is the safest way. I do use my mirrors, but always double check. For both of us, the Spyder mirrors are quite good, with just a little hand interference inside. No mirror extensions needed. I like what you did with the convex mirrors, though. Pretty nice location, and they don't obscure part of the standard mirror. This seems more logical. How are they mounted? Are they a bolt-on or stick-on?
-Scotty
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BajaRon
Well-known member
Don't blame BRP for this one. They would love to extend the mirror stalks.
There is a standard for motorcycles and you can't exceed a certain stalk length regardless of any safety concerns.
Our all wise government knows best, and they have all your tax dollars to obstruct a free enterprise company like BRP....but that is another story altogether.
BRP began the process to get an exception for the Spyder. But when they realized how long it would take, how expensive it would be and that there was no guarantee they would be successful they gave up.
I've got the KewlMetal extensions and they really do the job, with or without risers.
:agree:+2. After reading many posts about how awful the mirrors were on the Spyder, I was very pleasantly surprised when I purchased mine and found no issue at all. The mirrors are significantly better than on many sport bikes I have operated in the past. And yes, shoulder checks are a very important part of the curriculum in our motorcycle training program here. Turning your head is a habit that could save your life.
Bruce
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bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
I turn my head in a car, too, and also in an airplane. Maybe it's an old habit, but it's a safe one. Unfortunately, only motorcycles are open enough to give you an unobstructed view that way, hence mirrors on cages. On motorcycles, turning your head takes more time than you may have available, so the mirrors are a huge help, but turning your head back to look over your shoulder just before you make a move can save your life! Good habit to develop. In the old days, bikes didn't have mirrors, and we had no choice. Other bikes vibrate so much you can't see a thing. Look over your shoulder and live to ride another day.
-Scotty
bjt
Very Helpful Member
I turn my head in a car, too, and also in an airplane. Maybe it's an old habit, but it's a safe one. Unfortunately, only motorcycles are open enough to give you an unobstructed view that way, hence mirrors on cages. On motorcycles, turning your head takes more time than you may have available, so the mirrors are a huge help, but turning your head back to look over your shoulder just before you make a move can save your life! Good habit to develop. In the old days, bikes didn't have mirrors, and we had no choice. Other bikes vibrate so much you can't see a thing. Look over your shoulder and live to ride another day.
-Scotty
+1 There are still blinds spots that you have to watch out for. When changing lanes in a car, I check the mirrors then glance either to the left or the right (depending on which lane I want to go to) to be sure there isn't a vehicle riding in the blind spot.
Lack of neck mobility an accident cause factor
Stuart, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration agrees with you. In a study entitled, "Intersection Negotiation Problems of Older Drivers," the agency reports:
Perhaps most common is the age-related decline in head and neck mobility. Joint flexibility has been estimated to decline by approximately 25 percent in older adults, due to arthritis, calcification of cartilage, and joint deterioration. This restricted range of motion reduces an older driver's ability to effectively scan to the rear and sides of his/her vehicle to observe blind spots, and can also hinder the timely recognition of conflicts during turning and merging maneuvers at intersections (Ostrow, Shaffron, and McPherson, 1992). Reduced neck flexibility also penalizes older pedestrians who must detect potential conflicts without unreasonable delay to accomplish intersection crossings within a protected signal phase.
If you are interested, the full report is at: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/olddrive/oldvol1/vol1tablecontent.html#vol1table
Cheers,
Bruce
Stuart, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration agrees with you. In a study entitled, "Intersection Negotiation Problems of Older Drivers," the agency reports:
Perhaps most common is the age-related decline in head and neck mobility. Joint flexibility has been estimated to decline by approximately 25 percent in older adults, due to arthritis, calcification of cartilage, and joint deterioration. This restricted range of motion reduces an older driver's ability to effectively scan to the rear and sides of his/her vehicle to observe blind spots, and can also hinder the timely recognition of conflicts during turning and merging maneuvers at intersections (Ostrow, Shaffron, and McPherson, 1992). Reduced neck flexibility also penalizes older pedestrians who must detect potential conflicts without unreasonable delay to accomplish intersection crossings within a protected signal phase.
If you are interested, the full report is at: http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/olddrive/oldvol1/vol1tablecontent.html#vol1table
Cheers,
Bruce
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