• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

No discussions on oil lately. So maybe time!!!

Steve W. said:
Actually, if you are being "frugal", get the Rotella T4, which is 15w-40 mineral oil. The Rotella T6 is the synthetic and is available in a 5w-40 as well as the 15w-40 that was linked.
Cost for the T4 is about $12-13, cost for the T6 is about $20-22.

.
Click to expand...

Yes, their are cheaper oils. My point being that Can-Am recommends, at minimum, synthetic blend or partial synthetic oils. I certainly wouldn't run T4 to a 9k mile oil change either.. The T6 is a full synthetic oil, and averages out to $5.25/qt when bought by the gallon jug. Not what I use, but a decent cost alternative..
 
good question on ruining the engine??????? AND using other oils - what happens if the engine seizes up or whatever and it is still under warranty and BRP finds out you did not use the recommended 5W40???????
I just had my Spyder serviced yesterday at my reputable/knowledgeable dealer (Olsen's Outdoor Power in Atlantic, IA) AND they always use 5W40 kit from BRP..
BIG F
 
That, I believe gets down to how deep one's pockets are. If one can prove they were using oil of the correct API service code and the weight of the oil was appropriate to the atmospheric conditions the owner could still win but only the lawyers make money.
 
"Can-Am recommends, at minimum, synthetic blend or partial synthetic oils." Why? What's a blend or partial synthetic? Is it like being partially pregnant? It seems like if it is synthetic oil, then it is synthetic. If it is a blend then it is not synthetic and you don't benefit from using a synthetic oil. If using conventional oil is bad, then why recommend a mix of bad oil with good oil? By the way just how much is the blend? 50/50? Seems to me it's either synthetic or it's not.
 
2dogs said:
"Can-Am recommends, at minimum, synthetic blend or partial synthetic oils." Why? What's a blend or partial synthetic? Is it like being partially pregnant? It seems like if it is synthetic oil, then it is synthetic. If it is a blend then it is not synthetic and you don't benefit from using a synthetic oil. If using conventional oil is bad, then why recommend a mix of bad oil with good oil? By the way just how much is the blend? 50/50? Seems to me it's either synthetic or it's not.
Click to expand...

I'd been researching about motor oil in general and found that "synthetic blend" oils contain about 10% of genuine synthetic oil and the rest is dino oil. An no manufacturers ever specify the amount of synthetic that I've seen. Technically, it is a marketing scheme since that much synthetic would not benefit engines at all, I think. I go with full synthetic oil on all my vehicles, sometimes I use that on my lawn mower and snow blower because I'm too lazy to go get dino oil just for those.
Cheers.
 
trong said:
I'd been researching about motor oil in general and found that "synthetic blend" oils contain about 10% of genuine synthetic oil and the rest is dino oil. An no manufacturers ever specify the amount of synthetic that I've seen. Technically, it is a marketing scheme since that much synthetic would not benefit engines at all, I think. I go with full synthetic oil on all my vehicles, sometimes I use that on my lawn mower and snow blower because I'm too lazy to go get dino oil just for those.
Cheers.
Click to expand...

Ahhh yes, I've done and do the same as you. Get this. The 6 speed manual transmission and transfer case in my F-350 all use ATF oil. Now tell me again about the shear factor. I change the oil in my spyder at 9k mile intervals. I've done several oil analyses over the 9k mile duration and the 10W40 Amsoil I use shears down to a viscosity of approx. 20W, with in about 2k miles and then remains there. So, for the next 7k miles I figure I'm running -10W20? LOL Remember this. All oil is Dino oil and is sold by the producer by the tanker load, to the highest bidder. That buyer then brands the oil adds their secrete formula of additives (making it synthetic) and then sells it to you and me. Synthetic oil is simply a more highly refined Dino oil. So then, if you contaminate synthetic oil by mixing it with regular oil shouldn't be called unsynthetic oil? LOL I'm bad.
 
Here is my first oil analysis ever. After discovering BRP doesn't offer full synthetic and recommends regular oil (semi synthetic) and they say to go 9300 miles, I decided to send the oil out to get analyzed. I did the first oil change at 2000 miles. The second one at 8000 miles. I ran the second oil change 6000 miles. The only part of this analysis I really understand is the note they wrote back to me. If any one can explain the rest that would be greatly appreciated. End result BRP XPS oil seams to stand up well except viscosity. That didn't seam to bother the analyist. I am going to stay with XPS, but my oil change intervals will be at 5000 miles.
 

Attachments

  • Screen Shot 2020-08-01 at 8.37.53 AM.jpg
    Screen Shot 2020-08-01 at 8.37.53 AM.jpg
    55.2 KB · Views: 29
:banghead::bdh::cus::lecturef_smilie: Stop over thinking this subject, use what ever meets or exceeds the manufactures spec, and what ever you can afford people!! Stop worrying that your doing some thing wrong, when was the last time YOU blew a motor up! TIRES AND OIL what a waste of time!! But why do people go to the race track??? Because they love watching a good crash!!!:popcorn::popcorn: :cheers:
 
Mikey said:
:banghead::bdh::cus::lecturef_smilie: Stop over thinking this subject, use what ever meets or exceeds the manufactures spec, and what ever you can afford people!! Stop worrying that your doing some thing wrong, when was the last time YOU blew a motor up! TIRES AND OIL what a waste of time!! But why do people go to the race track??? Because they love watching a good crash!!!:popcorn::popcorn: :cheers:
Click to expand...

It's on a roll. You can't stop it now. :roflblack:
 
Papa103 said:
...End result BRP XPS oil seams to stand up well except viscosity. That didn't seam to bother the analyist...
Click to expand...

The analyst was not concerned about the viscosity shearing down because in motorcycle engine & transmissions systems that share the same oil, as does the 1330 engine and SE6 transmission, the transmission gears beat the viscosity down fairly quickly, some oils in a little as 2K miles, but the viscosity level then remains pretty stable. A BRP Care guy named Steve explained that to us in early 2015 or so.
 
troop said:
I'd really like to see an oil analysis of Amsoil/M1 10w40 or Castrol 10w50 after a BRP stated 9000 mile run time. Has anybody ran their oil I ran the Amsoil for 9,666 miles and Blackstone Labs said I could try running it to 12,000 miles. Holds up excellent in the 1330.
Click to expand...
 
Help

Help

Did I buy the wrong oil ??

Got a good deal on Amsoil 10w-40 XL motor oil. Not JASO rated. I'm sure I could use up this stuff in my car but will it cause clutch slippage???

Does not say energy conserving.

Thanks in advance for your advice.
Lew L
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Gekko
Diesel engine oil in a gasoline engine? Check here.
2
Replies
23
Views
2K
2dogs
2
BajaRon
Front Pulley Failure! Incredibly Poor Dealer Response!
2
Replies
23
Views
2K
BajaRon
BajaRon
Z
2015 F3S Oil Pump Failure, replaced, engine still ticking - any ideas on what component/s might have been damaged?
Replies
15
Views
814
Cobranut
Cobranut
flapjackandbeans
DID Make My Mind up! - Big D's Mighty Red Baron has Arrived!
2 3
Replies
59
Views
7K
flapjackandbeans
flapjackandbeans
N
Questions about oil leaking on brand new 2023 RTL
2
Replies
28
Views
4K
Northernsledder
N
Back
Top