Next Gen Spyder Drvetrain

[Michaelscs]

No one else wants manual trans then?

I want a manual! I found a used F3-T with a manual this fall and I scooped it up. Last of the T's with a manual. I had a Daytona with a manual, but we ride a lot of 2-up and I wanted the air suspension. Don't know what I'll do when it's time for a change... probably no more Spyder for me.

 

[AVBIZ]

I want a manual! I found a used F3-T with a manual this fall and I scooped it up. Last of the T's with a manual. I had a Daytona with a manual, but we ride a lot of 2-up and I wanted the air suspension. Don't know what I'll do when it's time for a change... probably no more Spyder for me.

Thought I saw on a “Smoaks” video that BRP already has a plan in place to retire the manual trans option. That’s why I didn’t include in the survey.

 

[Michaelscs]

Thought I saw on a “Smoaks” video that BRP already has a plan in place to retire the manual trans option. That’s why I didn’t include in the survey.

They pretty much already have. The only model with a manual is the F3-S.

 

[Mike4143]

I have a 2015 RT Limited now but I had a Goldwing trike before and there is no comparison between the 2 bikes. The wing with shaft drive is so smooth and the Spyder with belt drive cannot compete. Belt is just tooooo long to be as smooth.
You cannot compare the power between the 2 bikes, the wing has about the same hp but much more torque which really shows when pulling a trailer up in the mountains. The fuel mileage is about the same I get between 38 to 43 riding
2 up with both bikes and I believe the Wing tank is a little smaller and uses regular gas not high test. The maintenance on the Spyder could be better and less expensive.
My vote is shaft drive, more cc's with an engine with less noise and runs on regular gas. I like the Spyder and went to it because of arthritis in the hands and like the semi=auto trans.

 

[wmjkweber02]

The Honda DCT would be an awesome addition. They really got that one right.

 

[AVBIZ]

The Honda DCT would be an awesome addition. They really got that one right.

I agree; made Honda’s Africa Twin a top seller.

 

[AVBIZ]

Bump....

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Has anybody here ever had a belt failure ? Is it a Can-Am thing ? Lots of H-D's and Indian/Victory's with years/miles on belts with low failure rates. And, yes, some serious power with built Harley's having no issues with belts...

But do they ride gravel roads or freshly chipped asphalt? That's where the worry is for Spyder ryders. On clean pavement Spyder belts generally last 100k miles plus.

 

[ARtraveler]

Two belt failures here. One came after exploring a 1 mile gravel road into a camp ground. Picked up a rock chip which caused a crack. Made it home and replaced belt within a week.

Second belt failure was in my driveway. To early in the year...got stuck in the soft gravel, gunned the engine to get out...sproingggggggggggggggg. Not the belt's fault. A great $500 lesson including the tow. :roflblack:

 

[cruisinTX]

Two belt failures here. One came after exploring a 1 mile gravel road into a camp ground. Picked up a rock chip which caused a crack. Made it home and replaced belt within a week.

Second belt failure was in my driveway. To early in the year...got stuck in the soft gravel, gunned the engine to get out...sproingggggggggggggggg. Not the belt's fault. A great $500 lesson including the tow. :roflblack:

I have to wonder about a guy who calls a $500 lesson "great". :shocked:

 

[ARtraveler]

I have to wonder about a guy who calls a $500 lesson "great". :shocked:

A lotta people wonder about me. :roflblack::roflblack:

 

[Grayhoun56]

Upgrade rear suspension

I have 2015 F3s 6 speed drive train is spot on for me rear suspension needs
Rising rate linkage

 

[PistonBlown]

But do they ride gravel roads or freshly chipped asphalt? That's where the worry is for Spyder ryders. On clean pavement Spyder belts generally last 100k miles plus.

I do a lot of gravel road riding (including the biggies like Skippers Road, Rainbow Road, Danseys Pass, etc) and never had a problem with those, though I do have a Spyderpops belt guard.

The twice I've been done is on freshly laid chip and tar where the tars still hot. This unfortunately is a common one over here as we have single lane roads so you have to ride through the roadworks and there's often not an alternative route. One guy I ride with had this happen twice in a week, the second time on the day he had the new belt fitted.

 

[AVBIZ]

Thanks for participating in the survey- summary below. It will continue on indefinitely so if you haven’t had a chance to submit your preference please do. I will not be “bumping” the post so it will drift out of the most active queue.

Shaft vs. Belt = 90% to 10%
Increased HP vs. Current HP = 68% to 32%
Semi Auto vs. Full Auto Transmission = 63% to 37%

You’re Welcome BRP

 

[cruisinTX]

Just wanted to check back in here to see current numbers; and maybe get thread back on first page for those who may have missed it initially or new members who are not aware of it.

 

[CopperSpyder]

Thanks for participating in the survey- summary below. It will continue on indefinitely so if you haven’t had a chance to submit your preference please do. I will not be “bumping” the post so it will drift out of the most active queue.

Shaft vs. Belt = 90% to 10%
Increased HP vs. Current HP = 68% to 32%
Semi Auto vs. Full Auto Transmission = 63% to 37%

You’re Welcome BRP

little late with the follow up but thanks, I just now remembered to look this up to see what the end result was.

 

[johnsimion]

Everybody has different ideas because everyone uses their Spyder differently. We only use our Spyder for cruising around town and short drives of 100 miles each way or less. For the way we use our Spyder, we would be very happy if it was electric with a range of 250 miles. Granted, BRP is unlikely to offer such an option because our use seems to be different from most. If BRP was going to stay with gas, we'd be perfectly happy with the existing engine as our Spyder easily sprints away from cars at stoplights as it is. A shaft drive would be a big improvement, however, to reduce maintenance and allow worry-free driving on gravel roads and parking lots.

 

[Peacekeeper6]

Something that defies the laws of gravity and avoids traffic on the roads altogether.