New Recall Gas Cap Did Not Fix Gas SMell

[Lamonster]

It is not supposed to receive gas at all. The tip-ver valve and air loop at the top of the tank should prevent this, but they are not foolproof, and many vehicles suffer from gas in the canister...not just Spyders. Don't overfill your tank or fill to fast, to avoid this.


I'm not sure how accurate this is. I can find no record of a recall or pending recall on the NHTSA site, so it is apparently not listed as a safety recall. My guess would be that it was for emissions purposes.

Read this
http://spyder.brp.com/blog/post-details?PostID=ea6cc7c9-764b-44ad-9647-a12e00f66679

What is the potential problem?

The fuel cap may not seal properly the fuel tank filler neck. Fuel vapors in the presence of an ignition
source could result in a fire.

 

[NancysToy]

Read this
http://spyder.brp.com/blog/post-details?PostID=ea6cc7c9-764b-44ad-9647-a12e00f66679

That explains the reason...thanks. Wonder why there is no apparent official US recall, although they have actually instituted an informal one?

 

[xpeschon]

Scotty,, this has nothing to do with this threat BUT, you must have the most post on this site!!! You should be at the 16,000 mark by the end of the day.. Amazing, thank you for all the good advice you pass along to members....

X Man

 

[NancysToy]

Scotty,, this has nothing to do with this threat BUT, you must have the most post on this site!!! You should be at the 16,000 mark by the end of the day.. Amazing, thank you for all the good advice you pass along to members....

X Man

Nah, Bob Denman passed me up a while back, and is racking them up faster than Speedy Gonzales. Nice to see ya back here, Joe. We missed you! This post was 16K, BTW. pps:

 

[fyrertuck]

Hello

I was having that problem too.

Now what I did was to change the fuel vent line from the tank to the canister.

After pulling both side body panels off I removed the tank vent to canister fuel line and pick up a new piece of fuel line from the auto store. I think it was 3/8 fuel line.

I come out of the tank vent and turn left with the hose and run it up the left side, next I crossed over the air filter housing (now this is more to the back of the housing not on top) then down to the canister. The fuel line is higher then the seat so gas will not run down to the canister, only vapors will. I did put a plastic cover over the fuel hose. I plan on moving the canister vent hose in spring.

No I do not have any pic but in spring I will do up some.

Note be safe about this mod you are playing with gas and vapors and if you put the hose to close to the engine you could have a fire.

Been a wrench turner for 30 years so play it safe.

 

[Bob Denman]

But Scotty's posts will actually impart useful information... :2thumbs: :bowdown:

 

[Tazzel]

That would be a very bad idea. You need to change out the cap, it is a recall. Save your other as a spare if you like but you will kick yourself a 1000 times if there is a fire you could of prevented by changing the cap as required. Plus if they ever found out you didn't change the cap provided to you and could prove it (like this post) I'm not sure the insurance would have to cover it. :dontknow:

Change the cap when you get it :lecturef_smilie:
nojoke

LOL, so how many Spyders have actually caught fire!!! and Spyders have been on the road how long??

 

[Bob Denman]

Even if it's only one... Would you want it to be yours? :shocked:
if your Spyder caught fire while you were heading down the road at about 60mph; what would you do? :yikes:
(Well... after THAT; of course! pps

 

[Spyderjockey]

I have a 2008 PE GS Spyder and for years have had the raw gas fumes, sometimes really really bad. I have had it to the dealer and he has always just kind of dismissed it saying that I am just overfilling it which I do not do, especially over the last 2 years. I even did the "canisterectomy" which I know a lot of people on here have done and I still get the raw gas fumes. Which brings me to a previous question that I posted a while ago but no one answered it. After reading some of the posts here about the gas cap I guess I should reinstall the canister and then take it to the dealer for the inspection recall.

Was hoping for some kind of response this time about "canisterectomy" and recall! :dontknow:

Wasn't this procedure also supposed to stop raw gas fumes or am I mistaken. :dontknow:

 

[Bob Ledford]

Ret all Gas camp

The gas cap is only one way you can get fuel smell, the other is through your EVAP canister. I would have your dealer check to see if your canister is full of fuel and check your purge valve.

Lamont

normally I would agree with you. However, the fuel tank only had approximately two maybe two a nd a half gallons of fuel in it as I filled it this morning and took 4,016 gallons.

i let it sit Sunday after I got home fo two hours to cool down as we had been doing a lot off stop n go traffic and it was. 79F out in the shade.

Now today after doing a 50 mile run I parked it in the same almost exact spot and no odors came out it.

The only tHing I have done to it was before the fill up I ,did take the new cap off and closely inspected the new oh ring seal it looked ok. Then I inspected the gas filler neck sealing surface for foreign debris or a ding, dent or cap scratch.

Finding what looked like a very bright spot I wiped it down. It was just a highly polished spot. Then I got the bright idea to very lightly lubricate the tank sealing lip with some multi use grease. The big difference result was it was easier to get to the cap torque release point for what ever that is. Worth

Tommorrow I go to the dealer for their side of the problem.:banghead::banghead:

 

[Bob Ledford]

One reason for canister

pps:

Boy was I ever excited when the new gas cap arrived in the USPO mail 12 Jan 2013. I ripped the box open with great glee. Took the new and the old and compared them then installed the new one . I was taken by surprise at how much more twisting torque it took for the new one to hit the first slip click. I was so sure it was fixed.:clap:

We took a ride and when we parked it in the garage guess what? It still emitted the odor of freshly boiled gasoline. So I guess the problem still exists! I will be standing at my dealers service department door on Tuesday AM when he opens for business. :gaah:

Had to leave the garage door open for almost two hours before it cleared out. Going to try running a fan on the front end to see if cooling it down faster helps This approaching ridculous now as it has ben going on off and on for 16 months now. :banghead:

Would someone let me in on the reason for the canister. Does it recycle the fuel when it receives it.. If not why not just run it down to drip on the ground like every other fuel burning apparatus.

I must be missing something really important here. "It surely ain't Safety" But for the life of me, I can't figure it out..

One reason for the canister is to prevent.air contamination by allowing fuel vapors breaching clean air. We can gthank the EPA and CARB fFor that regulation.

 

[AnthonyG]

got my new gas cap today, but i havent had any problems with the old one, but i will use the new one and keep the old one for a spare.

 

[Lamonster]

Lamont

normally I would agree with you. However, the fuel tank only had approximately two maybe two a nd a half gallons of fuel in it as I filled it this morning and took 4,016 gallons.

i let it sit Sunday after I got home fo two hours to cool down as we had been doing a lot off stop n go traffic and it was. 79F out in the shade.

Now today after doing a 50 mile run I parked it in the same almost exact spot and no odors came out it.

The only tHing I have done to it was before the fill up I ,did take the new cap off and closely inspected the new oh ring seal it looked ok. Then I inspected the gas filler neck sealing surface for foreign debris or a ding, dent or cap scratch.

Finding what looked like a very bright spot I wiped it down. It was just a highly polished spot. Then I got the bright idea to very lightly lubricate the tank sealing lip with some multi use grease. The big difference result was it was easier to get to the cap torque release point for what ever that is. Worth

Tommorrow I go to the dealer for their side of the problem.:banghead::banghead:

I'm not sure what your disagreeing with me on.

 

[Lipz]

2012 SM5 RSS here. Did not have a problem but got the new cap and changed it. I would rather change the cap than watch my bike melt.

 

[bhfromme]

The gas cap is only one way you can get fuel smell, the other is through your EVAP canister. I would have your dealer check to see if your canister is full of fuel and check your purge valve.

Hi Lamonster. I had a guy under the front of my RT installing some LEDs and he said it was wet with gasoline. Dealer had no clue. Any insight on that?

 

[Ga Blue Knight]

I have a RS SE5 2012. I have no gas smell, I will take the gas cap if I get one but I will just keep it as an extra, Why mess with it. So far no problems with my Spyder dont want to mess with the mojo

Installing the new gas cap will accomplish two things. It will keep you in legal compliance with the recall if you ever have to do warrantee work on the fuel system and it will keep you from losing it when and if the gas smell starts to appear. This is just a friendly suggestion.

 

[pickelhead]

I was at the Can Am dealer in Greenville, SC this weekend. There is also a recall on a hose, depending on your VIN. My 2012 RTS was not on the list. The recall includes GS, RS, and RT's of all years. The new gas cap I received solved my feil smell problem.

 

[cjackg]

The hose from the canister was pinched, no more gas smell or leaking.

I received the new fuel cap and started using it today, but it did not fix my problem. Still getting a gas drip after every hot shutdown.
Canister and valve was replaced by my dealer 4 months ago.

Is closing off the canister vent hose (underneath the RT) a workable solution? Either pinching it, or put a plug in it...?

 

[ruthie]

Who will receive a new gas cap? Do I have to contact CanAm to receive a cap? Been off line due to the death of my sister so please fill me in. Thank you.

 

[SpyRyd]

Who will receive a new gas cap? Do I have to contact CanAm to receive a cap? Been off line due to the death of my sister so please fill me in. Thank you.

First let me say how sorry I am for your loss...sisters are special...I have three of 'em.

Everyone will get the new gas cap. No need to contact BRP (CanAm). I believe BRP is mailing the caps to the folks in the South first since they typically enjoy year 'round ryding weather while its kinda hit and miss with the rest of us.