skeetshooter
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Has anyone tried 1 of these?I got one http://www.scottsonline.com/products.php?PartType=3&Bike=Can-Am today:dontknow: will try it out next oil change.
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BajaRon
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This technology has been around for a long time. I think they were running these screen filters in WWII aircraft. People either love them or hate them. You will get both glowing recommendations and horror stories if you do some research on them.
Having said this I have only done research on this type of filter, I have never actually used one.
From what I have read the cleaning of this filter is the key and some say it is difficult to actually get all the contaminants out of this kind of filter. Other detractors say it's much easier and less mess to just change out a traditional filter than to clean these. Others say it isn't that big a deal.
If you try one let us know what you think. Personally, my feeling is you won't know if it is working properly until it is too late.
Bad Dog6
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35 micron isn't very tight. Particles 2 to 20 micron do the most damage as they are small enough to get between the bearing surfaces. Filter efficiency is another thing to keep in mind. As an example, an AMSOIL Ea oil filter is 98.7 % efficient at 15 micron. Unfortunately they don't make one for the Spyder yet. (a human hair is 70 micron )
I agree with Ron, I would stick with the filters he sells. 35 micron is to loose for my liking. IMHO
Maybe Ron can supply the efficiency rating of his filters.
I agree with Ron, I would stick with the filters he sells. 35 micron is to loose for my liking. IMHO
Maybe Ron can supply the efficiency rating of his filters.
BajaRon
Well-known member
I don't have any specifications for the filters I sell. Only that they will meet or exceed OEM specs., and I'm not sure those are available either. I do know that HiFlo makes a quailty filter using the best medium (Paper) available. Personally, I don't think you can get a better Oil filter than what I sell (K&N included). I can't prove this but I wouldn't sell them if I didn't think so.
I also carry the K&N oil filters. They are more expensive and look cool because they are red. I haven't yet done so because I think all the customer is paying for is the concept that they are getting a better product. Marketing can be a very deceptive tool. Again, just my opinion. I may start offering the K&N filter because people want them.
This is what HiFlo says on their web site.
To achieve and ensure the consistency of our high quality, we use only premium quality materials from well known makers: Steel from Toyota Tsusho and NKK Japan, Glue from Henkel Germany, paper from Ahlstrom Filtration Finland, Hollingsworth & Vose USA and Awa Paper Japan.
With this high quality, the customer list is extensive and includes car makers such as BMW, Peugeot, Ford, Toyota, Mazda, Suzuki, Nissan and Denso.
Hiflofiltro is the complete range of motorcycle filters engineered to extreme quality standards to provide ultimate engine protection.
Our aim is to supply you the best quality most innovative and competetive product line fully backed by complete availability and service.
Your absolute satisfaction is our commitment.
skeetshooter
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OIL FILTER
Most oil filters are 50 micron or more.:ani29:
Most oil filters are 50 micron or more.:ani29:
Tango
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I used to sell Amsoil. On a phone call to their tech line, I actually spoke to an Engineer. We got to talking about oil filters. He stated that Amsoil ea series filters are rated at 10 micron. And their manufacturing specs call for an 8 micron filter spec. They say 10 to allow them a leeway at 10. The filters are, or were made in Anamosa Iowa, just down the road from the Victory plant. At this manufacturer they make Amsoil, K+N, and another top make that escapes me right now. The day I was there they were making K+N filters. Tom :trike:
steve635
New member
Lower microns, higher restriction
I remember being on an Indian Motorcycle forum (had an '02 Chief) not long after Indian had come out with their proprietary Powerplus motors. People started using filters with tighter tolerances not realizing this made the filter more restrictive, and the filter was preventing this "cleaner" oil from getting where it needed to go. Needless to say there were some pretty serious consequences. I'll stick with the OEM's recommendations.
I remember being on an Indian Motorcycle forum (had an '02 Chief) not long after Indian had come out with their proprietary Powerplus motors. People started using filters with tighter tolerances not realizing this made the filter more restrictive, and the filter was preventing this "cleaner" oil from getting where it needed to go. Needless to say there were some pretty serious consequences. I'll stick with the OEM's recommendations.
skeetshooter
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OIL FILTER
I have over 35000 mi.I will let you know when i put new filter in i will never know until i try.Betting on an easy 100000mi.:ani29:
I have over 35000 mi.I will let you know when i put new filter in i will never know until i try.Betting on an easy 100000mi.:ani29:
redlightron
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I used the filter in question on my Ultra HD for 2 yrs without any problems. I didn't know they made them for a spyder but I'm using Ron's filter on the spyder without any issue's also.
pro10is
New member
IMHO stainless steel filters are not ready for prime time for two reasons. Currently they can filter down to only about 35 microns. A quality paper filter can filter down to 10 microns although only at about a 40% efficiency, but at least they can catch very small particles some of the time. At 20 microns they are 60% efficient. The other important factor is that stainless steel filters usually do not have as much surface area as a paper filter meaning they will clog faster.
Also you would have to do an excellent job at cleaning them to restore them to full capacity. This would be very hard to do by hand. The only way I can think of to really effectively clean them is to use an ultrasonic cleaner.
Stainless steel filters may someday be as good or better than paper but they're not quite there yet. For now stick with a quality paper filter and change at every oil change.
Also you would have to do an excellent job at cleaning them to restore them to full capacity. This would be very hard to do by hand. The only way I can think of to really effectively clean them is to use an ultrasonic cleaner.
Stainless steel filters may someday be as good or better than paper but they're not quite there yet. For now stick with a quality paper filter and change at every oil change.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
:agree: Filters are cheap, especially in comparison to a multi-thousand dollar vehicle. There is no better, cheaper way to extend the life of your vehicle than to change the oil and filter regularly...and often.
skeetshooter
New member
OIL FILTER
I think what i'm going to do is save a sample of oil when i chage it,put the ss filter in when it's time to change oil again have both samples tested.That way i will know for sure whitch one does better.It will take awhile i will let you know what happens when i know.:ani29:
I think what i'm going to do is save a sample of oil when i chage it,put the ss filter in when it's time to change oil again have both samples tested.That way i will know for sure whitch one does better.It will take awhile i will let you know what happens when i know.:ani29:
BajaRon
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That is the way to do it. Let us know what you find. This will be interesting.
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