New BRP Fan

[Putt-Putt]

Has anyone heard of BRP having or coming out with a new fan to cool the radiator? I heard somewhere that someone was getting a new fan that was to be more efficient at cooling. Keeping the temps down better. :dontknow: I think it was on spyder talk.

 

[BajaRon]

Has anyone heard of BRP having or coming out with a new fan to cool the radiator? I heard somewhere that someone was getting a new fan that was to be more efficient at cooling. Keeping the temps down better. :dontknow: I think it was on spyder talk.

There are some pretty high tech, high volume fans out there. Not sure what the CFM is on our current fan. But if we could move more air it might make a difference.

 

[pjense2002]

a better radiator

i wonder if anyone has looked for a thicker alum. radiator but i bet that fan upgrade would be an easy find
:sour:

 

[BajaRon]

i wonder if anyone has looked for a thicker alum. radiator but i bet that fan upgrade would be an easy find
:sour:

I've seen a number of studies that showed thicker doesn't help nearly as much as more frontal surface area.

I can't remember the exact specs but a typical 3 core was something like 20% more efficient than a 2 core even though it added 50% more surface area.

But adding the same amount of frontal surface area was something like 45% more efficient.

A 4 core radiator was less than 10% more efficient than the 3 core if I remember correctly.

 

[Lamonster]

I don't see the need if these temps are correct.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13512

 

[bone crusher]

I don't see the need if these temps are correct.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13512

I agree...the bike doesn't have a temp issue provided the fan works...those with harleys really pay the price for heat but our Spyders do quite well...

 

[Putt-Putt]

I was just woundering because the way it was said it implied that BRP was making this new fan. The owner was getting it from the dealer as update I believe. :dontknow:

 

[Trickie Dick]

I wish they would put that effort into figuring out a way to redirect the fan so it doesn't cook our feet:yikes:

 

[Pilo]

There are some pretty high tech, high volume fans out there. Not sure what the CFM is on our current fan. But if we could move more air it might make a difference.

Hey Baja:

What about a fan for the oil radiator?

Any room behind it to make it feasible?

Will it really improve overall cooling?

Just my 2 cents...

Saludos from an Argie in Venezuela

 

[NancysToy]

Hey Baja:

What about a fan for the oil radiator?

Any room behind it to make it feasible?

Will it really improve overall cooling?

Just my 2 cents...

Saludos from an Argie in Venezuela

Oil cooler fans can be helpful. My BMW has one. The stock R1100RTs had only the standard oil radiator, but the police bikes like mine had a thermostat controlled fan. Doesn't kick in until very high heat, but helps in slow traffic. Of course the BMW RT is air/oil cooled...not water cooled like the Spyder.

Difficulties for the Spyder include the fact that the water cooling is probably more efficient, partly due to a higher flow rate. Also, there is precious little room on the left side to move the air, and there aren't large vents in the Tupperware, like on the right. The oil tank would be in the way of the air flow, too.

 

[Rando]

I wish they would put that effort into figuring out a way to redirect the fan so it doesn't cook our feet:yikes:

I agree! I have the the ISCI footboards and the heat with the new foot position is terrible! I thought someone posted about an OEM fan deflector that is now standard on the newer Spyders?

 

[BajaRon]

Hey Baja:

What about a fan for the oil radiator?

Any room behind it to make it feasible?

Will it really improve overall cooling?

Just my 2 cents...

Saludos from an Argie in Venezuela

That would normally be a great idea. Lamont tried it on his but it made no noticable difference. It seems the oil just doesn't get all that hot.

With the numbers that Lamont is getting with his gauges it looks like the Spyder isn't getting as hot as we thought at 5 or even 6 bars.

Original numbers we got were about 10~15 degrees higher for the same bar count.

Some of it may be psychological as we feel a lot more of the heat on the Spyder than we do on a motorcycle.

 

[Lamonster]

Hey Baja:

What about a fan for the oil radiator?

Any room behind it to make it feasible?

Will it really improve overall cooling?

Just my 2 cents...

Saludos from an Argie in Venezuela

 

[NancysToy]

Some of it may be psychological as we feel a lot more of the heat on the Spyder than we do on a motorcycle.

:agree:

 

[BRPjunkie]

:agree:

I have felt from the start that the temp guage was almost too much information. Never had a bike before with a temp guage and never worried about heat unless actually stuck in traffic for road work, traffic jam, etc. Then I would just shut it down. During our Natchez Trace ride in LA & MS, the temp guage created a target fixation as that was all I looked at. I know some have had overheating and limp mode, etc, but many of those may have been relay or other component failure. BRP has designed many water cooled engines with some pretty confined locations and it's hard to believe that they could have missed the mark on this as badly as we may have originally thought. Not saying that they got it perfect, but the actual number of overheated Spyders that were the result of bad cooling system design and not failed relays, failed fan, failed sensor, low coolant, loose coolant caps, etc. is probably small.

 

[BajaRon]

I have felt from the start that the temp guage was almost too much information. Never had a bike before with a temp guage and never worried about heat unless actually stuck in traffic for road work, traffic jam, etc. Then I would just shut it down. During our Natchez Trace ride in LA & MS, the temp guage created a target fixation as that was all I looked at. I know some have had overheating and limp mode, etc, but many of those may have been relay or other component failure. BRP has designed many water cooled engines with some pretty confined locations and it's hard to believe that they could have missed the mark on this as badly as we may have originally thought. Not saying that they got it perfect, but the actual number of overheated Spyders that were the result of bad cooling system design and not failed relays, failed fan, failed sensor, low coolant, loose coolant caps, etc. is probably small.

:agree: We may be worrying too much about water temp. When you get stuck in traffic and start to feel the oven underneath you and your body starts to bake you naturally look at the temp gauge. When you see it has gone up 2 more bars than what it normally runs you start to think something may be wrong.

Throw in a few "Limp Mode" stories and you've got all you need to start worrying.

I have to say I've never had any trouble and I've never gone over 6 bars. If I didn't have the gauge I'd probably never have thought twice about it.

I used to take a lot of heat from my Valkyrie. With cylinder heads in front of both feet and a whole lot of engine putting off more heat. Sitting stopped got pretty warm. But the Spyder is warmer sitting still than my Valkyrie was.

 

[Putt-Putt]

But I'm still woundering if and why BRP is or has come out with a new fan. Because this person was told by the dealer that BRP had a new fan. And I believe they were going to order it.:spyder:
So is there a new fan or not, thats the question. Is there anyway to find out.

 

[Putt-Putt]

It's on spyder talk.com----it is verified they are getting a new improved fan from BRP under warrenty.

 

[ataDude]

But... in the case of the "new and improved" Gear Position Sensor, it was not. It was only manufactured in the correct way to eliminate the solder issues... and given a new part number.

Just for your consideration.

.

 

[BeRight]

I am still a skeptic. :dontknow: Waiting for the new fan part number. So far no one has been able to produce a BRP part number