Now we're making progress! :thumbup:
First, what year and model is your Spyder? Wiring is different for different models.
Another question. The grip heater switch you show, are you plugging into an existing connector intended to be used for a seat heater, or are you splicing into the Spyder wiring? Is the green connector part of the Spyder harness? Is it used for the grip heaters and you're just using it for testing, or is it an extra connector?
Looking at the pictures you're having trouble because the wiring for the heater, as I see it in the pictures, is screwed up. Have you had the harness uncoiled? If not, do so. You should have, probably, a red wire and a black wire with tab connectors on their ends. You need those for power and ground to be connected from the heater package into the bike wiring. Or is that what you show in the next to last pic?
Is the heater supposed to be high and low heat using both pads on the driver seat, or one heat level only with one pad for driver and second for passenger? Where did you get the heater? What is its brand and model, or do you even know? Is the included switch simple on/off, or is it on/off/on, i.e., two on positions? A pic of its terminals will clear that up.
The yellow wire goes to switched bike power. When you flip the switch the relay energizes which is what controls power to the heater pads. Please unplug it and post a photo of its terminals, and a close up of the wires plugged into it.
Well, nothing worked. When the engine is on the factory switch is suppose to behave like this ( see pics )
Engine on: 1a and 3 have power
In the HI Heat position: 1a, 3, and 4 are on
In the LOW heat position: 1a, 2, and 3 are on
The Carling website said that the number 1 pin was for the illumination ground only.
That's right. #1 connects to Spyder ground.
Is the number 3 pin also suppose to be a ground?
No! 3 is connected to the main 12 volt power supply of the bike.
I'm trying to find another switch but nothing fits in the hole and I need a two position switch. Everything around me is on / off only. I would like to use the switch I have but it seems it can't be wired to operate such a simple device.
Do you mean you want an ON/OFF switch, or an ON/OFF/ON switch? You have a two position switch in your hand! It's two position in the 2 to 3 position, i.e. on/off, and two position in the 3 to 4 position, also on/off. You can use it with no problem. The only difference from your other switches is when you have 2 to 3 used you have two OFF clicks, on in the middle and the other with the switch in the 3 to 4 position. Use either 2 or 4 to go to the heater, whichever one is connected when the switch is pushed at the top.
This is the harness for the heater. Simple 4 connection rig. Red and black power the pads with a plugin pigtail. 2 Blacks, yellow, and 2 reds go into relay. Red, black, yellow, and white go to switch. Lone light yellow wire, I was told, goes to a switched power.
I hope some of this makes sense. I'm a little out of my depth here. I'm recovering from a stroke and a fractured back so I figured now would be a good time to do these little projects.
I'm thinking you may have a high/low heat heater pad in which case you need a three way switch like you have. But the relay wiring conflicts with this idea. That's why we need more info.
Also a good time to learn! How much electrical wiring experience to you have? Are you perchance having problems grasping all this because of the after effects of the stroke? If so, we'll work on this more slowly and methodically. We may even need to just start over and carefully take things one step at a time. The stroke can be a very justifiable reason for difficulties grasping concepts such as what is involved here.
