My new baby - which gas? 87, E10, or is 91 octane better?

[BajaRon]

You're overthinking this. Pick one and go with it. It has been well established (and battled over) low these many years. Lower octane will not hurt anything. You may lose some performance and fuel mileage based on environment. But the computer will compensate and the average person never knows the difference.

If you want optimum performance, go with 91 or higher. If you don't care, then go with 87.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Hi folks, I know the recommendation is for91 octane fuel.
In our part of North Carolina, we get 87 and 93.
What if when I fueled, I used half of both?
Thoughts?

The OCTANE thing has been discussed at least 3,000,000 times. I have a 14 RT also and used 87 Octane 99.99% of the time. ... My RT runs and performs fine. To my knowledge since 2012 no one has reported any issues from using the 87 octane .... good luck ....Mike :thumbup:

 

[ARtraveler]

The OCTANE thing has been discussed at least 3,000,000 times. I have a 14 RT also and used 87 Octane 99.99% of the time. ... My RT runs and performs fine. To me knowledge since 2012 no one has reported any issues from using the 87 octane .... good luck ....Mike :thumbup:

:agree: x 2 :bowdown:

 

[BajaRon]

The OCTANE thing has been discussed at least 3,000,000 times.

This may be a conservative estimate! At least, it feels like it...

 

[K80Shooter]

You'll get all kinds of replies on this. It's one of those things that people just like to disagree about. :roflblack:

I'm the opposite of the others, I run the higher octane just because most times my spyder only holds 5.5 gallons when I fuel up.
At roughly only .50 cents a gallon (3.15 vs 3.65 today) difference that's only $2.75 between the two. Why sweat that little of an amount. :cheers:

 

[FrogmanDave]

I agree with everything that has been written so far. But to answer your question Jackhartjr, yes, filling up with half of each will give you 91 octane.

 

[racoon]

The Operators Guide says the fuel tank on my 2024 Spyder takes 5.3 US gallons.
Gasbuddy.com shows the difference between regular and premium gasoline in my area is about 60 cents per gallon, which means if it were dead dry the price difference to fill up the tank would be about US $3.00.

Considering I paid over US $30,000 for my Spyder RT Sea-to-Sky, putting an extra $3.00 into the fuel tank isn't going to kill me.

 

[jjc54]

The Operators Guide says the fuel tank on my 2024 Spyder takes 5.3 US gallons.
Gasbuddy.com shows the difference between regular and premium gasoline in my area is about 60 cents per gallon, which means if it were dead dry the price difference to fill up the tank would be about US $3.00.

Considering I paid over US $30,000 for my Spyder RT Sea-to-Sky, putting an extra $3.00 into the fuel tank isn't going to kill me.

My 2016 RTL has a 6.9 Gal tank. When did they reduce the tank capacity?

 

[Jackhartjr]

Hi folks, I know that this has been discussed a lot!
However, I don't know if the question was asked the way I put it. That said, looks like I'll be fine with the 87.
Thanks folks!

 

[Mikey]

If you're not sure, just do a search at the top of the page; and let your eye's bleed in pain reading!!!! Trust Us!!!!!

 

[racoon]

My 2016 RTL has a 6.9 Gal tank. When did they reduce the tank capacity?

Uh oh. :banghead:

2024 Operator's Guide

Page 81, Plan Your Trip:

The vehicle has a 20 l (5.3 gal (liq.,US)) fuel tank.

Page 176, Technical Specifications:

Fuel tank capacity 26.5 l (7 gal (liq.,US))

So the tank has a capacity of somewhere between 20 and 26.5 litres.

 

[Peter Aawen]

My 2016 RTL has a 6.9 Gal tank. When did they reduce the tank capacity?

Uh oh. :banghead:

2024 Operator's Guide

Page 81, Plan Your Trip:

The vehicle has a 20 l (5.3 gal (liq.,US)) fuel tank.

Page 176, Technical Specifications:

Fuel tank capacity 26.5 l (7 gal (liq.,US))

So the tank has a capacity of somewhere between 20 and 26.5 litres.

Nope :lecturef_smilie: Just another example of BRP's incompetence, this time when it comes to upgrading/producing a 'fully up to date' and 'applicable to the latest models' User Manual! :banghead:

Despite having had about 15 years of Owner/User complaints about the crappy User Manual & requests for BRP to get it basically right when they upgrade things, there's clearly still no change in that particular issue! :bdh:



For those who are not aware, the Spyders with the V-Twin motor have the smaller tank; the 1330 Triple powered Spyders have the larger tank. :thumbup:

That's at least partly responsible for the 1330's greater range, cos the 998 V-twin motor can run very nearly at the same fuel economy, but they still have a smaller tank!

 

[BajaRon]

Uh oh. :banghead:

2024 Operator's Guide

Page 81, Plan Your Trip: The vehicle has a 20 l (5.3 gal (liq.,US)) fuel tank.


Page 176, Technical Specifications: Fuel tank capacity 26.5 l (7 gal (liq.,US))

So the tank has a capacity of somewhere between 20 and 26.5 litres.

There is a difference between fuel capacity and total volume as dedicated air space must be factored in. If you are careful, you can convert some of the dedicated airspace into fuel capacity. This is where these discrepancies are created.

Jackhartjr, you asked a specific question which has been answered, in detail, many (and I mean MANY) times. The admin is simply trying to group like questions/answers into a less scattered format. It's a good idea.

 

[racoon]

There is a difference between fuel capacity and total volume as dedicated air space must be factored in. If you are careful, you can convert some of the airspace into fuel capacity. This is where these discrepancies are created.

I respect your experience and knowledge about CAN-AM products, but 6.5 litres = 1.7 gallons, and is not a minor difference.

 

[BajaRon]

I respect your experience and knowledge about CAN-AM products, but 6.5 litres = 1.7 gallons, and is not a minor difference.

You can't burn air, and, if BRP's measurements are correct, that's where your 1.7 gallons are hiding. Sounds excessive. But I think it has to do with where they calculate most fuel pumps will click off and not accounting for topping off. I can't explain the reasoning for this. Just the real world effects and ways to get more fuel into the tank.

I can assure you, BRP isn't putting random sized fuel tanks in the Spyder. As far as I know, there are only 2 sizes. 1 for all 2008-2012 and another, slightly larger, for all 2013-current production. Though I have not checked part numbers on this. But even part #'s don't always bring the correct conclusion.

If you are careful, you can recover roughly a gallon of this airspace. I do it every time I fill up. Not saying anyone else should, just the way I do it. I never know when my next meal or fuel stop will be. So, I get all I can while the getting is good! :thumbup:

 

[Peter Aawen]

....
I can assure you, BRP isn't putting random sized fuel tanks in the Spyder. As far as I know, there are only 2 sizes. 1 for all 2008-2012 and another, slightly larger, for all 2013-current production. Though I have not checked part numbers on this. But even part #'s don't always bring the correct conclusion.

....thumbup:

You're right about the 'only 2 sizes' bit, but the smaller tank is actually used in all the V-twin motored Spyders, so 2008-2012, sure; but the 2013 RT and all the 2013 to 2015/16 RS's & ST's (as/whenever they sold out) kept the smaller tank too.

The 2014 RT's that (finally) got the 1330 Triple motor scored the bigger tank (& tupperware) & all the RT's since, plus all the F3's (so far, anyway ) have the bigger capacity tank too, altho the RT's & F3's up until 2020 are a little different in their filling arrangements. :thumbup:

 

[Bfromla]

Ethanol free make the difference lot more than the octane

 

[racoon]

Ethanol free make the difference lot more than the octane

Agreed. :2thumbs:

 

[BajaRon]

You're right about the 'only 2 sizes' bit, but the smaller tank is actually used in all the V-twin motored Spyders, so 2008-2012, sure; but the 2013 RT and all the 2013 to 2015/16 RS's & ST's (as/whenever they sold out) kept the smaller tank too.

The 2014 RT's that (finally) got the 1330 Triple motor scored the bigger tank (& tupperware) & all the RT's since, plus all the F3's (so far, anyway ) have the bigger capacity tank too, altho the RT's & F3's up until 2020 are a little different in their filling arrangements. :thumbup:

You're right, and I knew this but just didn't consider it. I stand corrected. Thank you!

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

You can't burn air, and, if BRP's measurements are correct, that's where your 1.7 gallons are hiding. Sounds excessive. But I think it has to do with where they calculate most fuel pumps will click off and not accounting for topping off. I can't explain the reasoning for this. Just the real world effects and ways to get more fuel into the tank.

I can assure you, BRP isn't putting random sized fuel tanks in the Spyder. As far as I know, there are only 2 sizes. 1 for all 2008-2012 and another, slightly larger, for all 2013-current production. Though I have not checked part numbers on this. But even part #'s don't always bring the correct conclusion.

If you are careful, you can recover roughly a gallon of this airspace. I do it every time I fill up. Not saying anyone else should, just the way I do it. I never know when my next meal or fuel stop will be. So, I get all I can while the getting is good! :thumbup:

:agree: .... however it's more than one gallon, going back 5+ years when this topic first came up I started to check on how much more gas can go into my 14 RT .... I put the nozzle in all the way and start filling up .... when the auto-shutoff stops the flow I note how much it took .... then I pull the nozzle back and start filling again .... I always get 1.35 gals. MORE gas in ..... Mike :thumbup: