My 2022 Spyder F3T missing air suspension...

[Athorn1991]

Hi. I purchased a 2022 Spyder F3T from Fort Worth Motorsports out here in Texas back on Aug 22. I have about 700miles and so far I been enjoying it. I noticed when I try riding with a passenger, the suspension would bottom out even with the slightest of bumps. I read through the owner manual and vehicle specifications and learned that this Spyder should have a manual rear air suspension.

I asked my dealership about how to add air into it but they first tried telling me that it's an automatic system. When I told them that it's a manual air suspension based on manual, they told me to check under the seat.

Well I checked it last night and I see that there's no valve to put air in it. I have a strong belief that this dealership may have not installed the bike correctly. On the ignition, I have the wrong icons where they used the RT part for the F3.

Since this is my first time buying a CanAm, or any motorcycle, what's the process on getting this fixed?

 

[seagravesg]

My 2020 F3T has a Schrader valve under the passenger seat to manually adjust the rear suspension.

 

[Athorn1991]

Yea, I'm thinking it's the dealership that didn't install it correctly. There's no Schrader valve under mines. I also been having other smaller issues like a squeaking sound when I ride very slowly and vibration when riding around 75-80ish. I'll try to take it to dealership one more time to have them look into it. If they still say it's not a problem, then I may take it to another dealership to get a quote of having it added

 

[blacklightning]

Yea, I'm thinking it's the dealership that didn't install it correctly. There's no Schrader valve under mines. I also been having other smaller issues like a squeaking sound when I ride very slowly and vibration when riding around 75-80ish. I'll try to take it to dealership one more time to have them look into it. If they still say it's not a problem, then I may take it to another dealership to get a quote of having it added

You should not have to pay for having it added. If the first dealership says that there isn't one, then I would not even deal with them anymore. There is definitely a chrome valve stem cover over the place where you would add air. Not an addition, but something that should be factory/dealer installed at no charge.

 

[Athorn1991]

Here's a photo under my seat and of my ignition switch. Would I be able to take it to other dealerships at no cost?

 

[Bfromla]

You should not have to pay for having it added. If the first dealership says that there isn't one, then I would not even deal with them anymore. There is definitely a chrome valve stem cover over the place where you would add air. Not an addition, but something that should be factory/dealer installed at no charge.

:agree: another dealer not same if part of a chain. & getting BRP cares involved; something fishy at that dealer

 

[BertRemington]

Parts are missing

Athorn1991 -- BRP shows manual fill air suspension for 2022 F3T https://can-am-shop.brp.com/on-road.../05-_Suspension_-_Rear_Shock/Y2245/26YB005a/y

 

[Athorn1991]

Athorn1991 -- BRP shows manual fill air suspension for 2022 F3T https://can-am-shop.brp.com/on-road.../05-_Suspension_-_Rear_Shock/Y2245/26YB005a/y

Thank you everyone for being so helpful. I called another dealership that'll be pulling up my VIN and said they can submit a claim if I'm missing parts. Like you all said, I'm very skeptical of Ft Worth Motorsports and would like to work with a different dealership if possible

 

[DGoebel]

It's also possible the airbag is in position, you should be able to see it, but was never filled if it were missing the hoses and schrader (fill) valve which the diagram indicates it's pointing aft.

 

[cptjam]

Take the side covers off and look. Find the airbag at the shock, look for hoses. Under the seat, on the right side, you will find a hole. The Schrader valve should be there. Call me if you need help. Joe

 

[Mikey]

:agree: Look at the bag and find the hose coming out of it and fallow it up I would bet you'll find a schrader valve that's not where it's supposed to be!!

 

[Texas Al]

Athorn1991 Try Freedom powersports or Cowtown Powersports they are both good dealer to work with.

 

[pauly1]

Here's a photo of my 2018 F3T with the valve location marked, where it is absent in your photo. The Shrader valve is held in by a E-clip around the valve body. Perhaps the clip came off or wasn't installed and the valve is on the bike but has dropped out of its mounting hole. I live in Weatherford and would be willing to meet up someplace to look at it.

 

[RazzleH]

My 2020 F3Ltd doesn't have that valve either. However, I can hear the rear suspension self adjust from time to time, depending on weight on and off the rear seat.

 

[Peteoz]

My 2020 F3Ltd doesn't have that valve either. However, I can hear the rear suspension self adjust from time to time, depending on weight on and off the rear seat.

Your Limited doesn’t have the valve, Razzle? But your air bag is adjusting itself? I wonder how they have sealed the bag if they haven’t installed the Shrader valve?

Pete

 

[RazzleH]

No idea Pete. It all works so I have never questioned it until reading this post. Yes, I went out and removed the rear seat. There is a bracket with a hole (as in the photo somebody else has posted) that I'm guessing would be for the valve. I've experienced no bottoming out and sometimes hear the 'adjuster' working, particularly if I have leaned back or sat back over the rear seat when relaxing or leg stretching.

 

[MrSchaefer]

Yeah.. your valve should be in that hole in the lower-right corner of your Spyder. That's where it is on my 2021 F3T

The Limited has an automatic system that adjusts the pressure (so no valve) - the Touring model requires manual adjusting of the rear bag with a simple shrader valve with a screw on cap.. and I can tell you from experience that if that thing is fully underinflated you can easily bottom out the rear shock with a passenger.

I will also warn you that that valve tends to stick a bit which can cause it to leak air. Simple to maintain but worth noting.

 

[MrSchaefer]

This is from my 2021 F3T (which is currently rather dirty)

 

[MrSchaefer]

I also been having other smaller issues like a squeaking sound when I ride very slowly

Is the squeaking sound coming from the front? Mine did the same thing because the dash bezel wasn't fully snapped in which caused the plastics to rub against each other and make a high pitched squeak that you could hear at low speeds - press along the plastic that runs around the dash, speakers, etc - top sides and bottom. Mine wasn't fully seated on the bottom and made a little click when I pushed along the bottom under the right speakers. Took away the squeaking sound. If not that I would check any of the other pieces held by pressure clips for one that isn't fully seated - mirror covers can also cause that but less likely than the dash trim in my experience

 

[spyder17f3t]

Hey there pauly 1. I just picked up a 2017 F3-T and upon reading this thread just went out to pop my seat off and found the schrader valve that you're speaking of. How do I adjust it and how do I know how much to adjust it? If it's based on rider weight I'm 5'7 195 lbs and when I ride 2 up with my girlfriend that puts us at a total of 380 lbs. Thanks for your help.