Motorcycle Driver License Question for Interstate

[tjfischer]

Sorry, but Oregon is different. They treat the endorsement just like helmet laws - just because you don't need one in Idaho, doesn't mean you can ride in Oregon without one - the endorsement is the same.

In a similar vein, you bring your ATV to Oregon without the new Oregon "safety license" and ride, or let your (under 18) kid ride one without you having one and being within 100 feet of them, and the law states they have the right to impound the vehicle (ie: keep it).

This is Oregon's way of saying they only want you to be able to walk or ride a bike. Nothing else is "green" enough...

An endorsement is differnt that a Helmet law. An endorsment states, nothing more than, you are licensed to operate that vehicle configuration in your home state.

A helmet law, is like a seat belt law, Cell phone law, or no splitting lane law. In the those cases, is does not matter what your are licensed to operate. Those laws require that you meet the individuals states safety laws while operatiing that vehicle, int the relative state you are traveling in.

We can take this even further. Vehicle registration varies from state to state as well. Trailering also varies. We can go on about the differences for days, and many of us will still be confussed.

 

[Dragonrider]

Let's see, is there an answer here why my son got a ticket for a non-licensed trailer in California, when no license is required in Oregon?? And going to court to argue the case, the judge made it stick?? Oregon is a VERY weird place, and getting more so.

 

[woodz428]

One Country, yet 52 states each with some of their own rules and regulations.... no wonder you guys and gals get so confused......
On a serious note it is odd though.

When did we gain 2 more states??
As pointed out, unless you are taking up residence in any other state than where you are licensed, the state you reside in calls the shots. Under the Constitution ( which seems irrelevant to some) each state HAS to recognize the laws of other states. There is no such thing as "reciprocity" on these type of items. If there was, that would interfere with freedom of travel, since it would be allow every state to stuff their coffers with tickets of travelers through their state for violations that aren't against the law in the place they reside.
Think about the military, they are often in several states in 1 year, that would require them to get endorsements in every state that they may be transfered to. When I was in, it was customary to even allow the military to use their current license for up to 30 days after discharge, at least in this state.
Most states also have a timeframe for transferral IF you change residence. I believe it is something like 90 days in Illinois.

 

[woodz428]

A helmet law, is like a seat belt law, Cell phone law, or no splitting lane law. In the those cases, is does not matter what your are licensed to operate. Those laws require that you meet the individuals states safety laws while operatiing that vehicle, int the relative state you are traveling in.
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As well as the "Right turn on Red" law we and some other states have. I think it is stupid, for various reasons. But you can't do that in a state that doesn't have the law just because the state you reside in does.

 

[Questions]

just know what states you are going to be riding through and read the driving laws handbook for each. .. each one is like a different country.

 

[Dragonrider]

Spend a weekend & get your endorsement. Then it really doesn't matter. You can ride where you want, and be legal, as well as safe..

 

[tjfischer]

Spend a weekend & get your endorsement. Then it really doesn't matter. You can ride where you want, and be legal, as well as safe..

:agree:

Why not?

 

[truck 85]

taking the safety class is a great idea.
In Washington it is a tricycle side car state I think the theroy there is 25.00 car 25.00 tricycle 25.00 motorcycle 25.00 CDL 25.00 tanker indorcement for cdl and on and on so at the end of the day it is 125.00 or more so you can drive.:helpsmilie:

 

[tjfischer]

On a quick history note . . .

This is the United States. The federal government -- at least in theory -- has limited rights to do the things that would be chaotic if the individual states tried to do them. .

To continue with the history lesson. The above is a constitional right as provisioned in the Tenth Amendment.

The Tenth Amendment "Rights of the States under Constitution"

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

For example, states are responsible for registering vehicles, driver's licensing and marriages.

The Respective states control these areas because they are not mentioned in the Constitution, and so they are under the control of the states.

The feds are responsible for war, among other things.

What all that means; In order to have a Federal License to operate a vehicle good in all states and teritories, It would have to be amended to the constitution.

 

[Oldmanzues]

States that have a reciprocity agreement with your home state honor your state's driver and vehicle licensing regulations. States that do not have reciprocity do not have to, although tey often do. They can enforce their own licensing requirements, if they wish to. Even with reciprocity, you could have an incredible hassle with the law, trying to get yourself out of a jam and back on the road. It all depends on the officer and situation involved. BTW, I'm not sure CA has reciprocity with anyone.

My advice is to take an MSF course and get a motorcycle or trike endorsement. The course will give you a lot of safety information and defensive riding techniques that will serve you well on the Spyder. Of course, many of the motorcycle specific things, like counter-steering, will not apply to the Spyder. My wife took the course when she started out, before she rode her Spyder, and she is very glad she did. It made her much more comfortable on the Spyder once she took to the road.

I would agree this would be best, but at bare minimum, A letter from the BVM that states a m/c license is not required.

Long Story, short version. My driver license expired while I was in service, but was valid until I got out. 18 years later. then I had to get a MC endorsement. Wore out several copies of that letter over the years.
Old Man Zues

 

[NancysToy]

I would agree this would be best, but at bare minimum, A letter from the BVM that states a m/c license is not required.

Long Story, short version. My driver license expired while I was in service, but was valid until I got out. 18 years later. then I had to get a MC endorsement. Wore out several copies of that letter over the years.
Old Man Zues

We do this with our old cars. We carry a copy of the regulation that says seat belts are not required. It has helped with a couple of insufficiently educated LEOs. Not sure how much it would help in a small town out of state, though.