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Mixing two oils both within spec

With all that's been said, I'll continue with the BRP, XPS blend and change every 4,600 miles, like stated in the owner's manual. If the sky should fall one day, I'll be sure to let everyone know.


So far, I'm using the BRP oil also.

Good point about testing Ron, I've had my track cars oil tested at times and never an issue.

I have a couple test containers in front of me for Blackstone Labs, I'll have to test out my Spyder oil near next oil change. :thumbup:

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So the tests done by a member of this site that amsoil lost viscosity by 4000 miles means nothing? All oil breaks down better or best? Superior? Doubt it!

Another good question. Though I don't know of anyone suggesting his lab tests 'Mean Nothing'. I've shared my lab test results with that poster and he has shared his with me. Neither of us are quite sure what to make of it. I share my experience here on Spyderlovers and he shares his.

True, all oils break down. It's the amount of endurance to the finish line that we are discussing. And if you look at the relative results from both his and my tests, they demonstrate that the true synthetic oils outlast the others. My test results show a more dramatic difference. Why he gets lower numbers across the board may have more to do with the testing method than difference in results.

Still, the testing methods, and you would think the outcomes. are supposed to be standardized.

That is a quandary yet to be explained.
 
So far, I'm using the BRP oil also.

Good point about testing Ron, I've had my track cars oil tested at times and never an issue.

I have a couple test containers in front of me for Blackstone Labs, I'll have to test out my Spyder oil near next oil change. :thumbup:

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I hope you do. And I'd like to see the results.

This isn't about who is right and who is wrong. It's about sharing information and making an informed choice. It's all good! :ohyea:
 
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You guys are talking over my head. I'll store all that info. on my brain hard drive for future use:roflblack::roflblack:
 
I hope you do. And I'd like to see the results.

This isn't about who is right and who is wrong. It's about sharing information and making an informed choice. It's all good! :ohyea:


I agree.

Dont mean for my post to sound right or wrong, just gathering info for an informed decision on my part....although I don't think anyone will change my mind on a 3500-4000 mile oil change. Lol
 
Bottled water is NOT better than tap. There is no agency anywhere tasked with testing bottled water. It's left up to the industry. Florida is full of water bottlers pumping it out of the same aquifer that our well uses. City water is constantly tested. the law requires it. The ONLY advantage in bottled water is convenience. I won't even get INTO the British tests that show plasticizers in human tissue from leaching out of water bottles.

Why is bottled water better than tap? They look identical. And tap water is much cheaper and easier to get!

Why is billet better than pot cast metal? (as in the windshield arm on the RT). You will have people say 'I've run my windshield up and down for 50,000 miles and it's fine. You don't need a better windshield arm. While at the same time these broken arms are causing a fair number of riders a great deal of grief.

They say 'The proof is in the pudding' and they are right.

I'm not saying that Amsoil is the best possible oil, nor am I saying that we are all going to die if we don't use it. It's just a very good option for lubricating your Spyder. And 'Why' is a very good question.

It is a proven fact that an Engineered oil (ie. Amsoil and a few others) is a better lubricant than a doctored mineral oil (ie. most so called 'Synthetics'). The additive package in these 'Synthetics' is not designed to lubricate, it is designed to protect the weak oil chains from damage and breakdown. Once the additives go away (which they do) then the oil breaks down pretty quickly and your lubrication goes away.

I don't want to bore people by rehashing the details. And they are readily available if you want to do the research. Everyone has an oil opinion, but how many are based on fact and actual testing? Not that I blame people. Research takes time and it's a hassle to have your oil tested. Very few do either.

As far as 'Dirty', that is what filters are for. I've run as far a 6,400 miles of very hot, very hard, somewhat torturous miles and had my oil tested. Not only was it not 'Dirty' but the parameters were well within specs.

You can change your oil as often as you like, it's your Spyder. And if you're not using a true, engineered at the refinery stage synthetic oil like Amsoil, and you're not having it tested, I highly recommend changing it at 3,000-3,500 miles. Especially if you're riding 2 up and or pulling a trailer. Not because it will be dirty, because it's probably not. But because it's almost certainly going away and you're no longer getting the required protection.
 
Bottled water is NOT better than tap. There is no agency anywhere tasked with testing bottled water. It's left up to the industry. Florida is full of water bottlers pumping it out of the same aquifer that our well uses. City water is constantly tested. the law requires it. The ONLY advantage in bottled water is convenience. I won't even get INTO the British tests that show plasticizers in human tissue from leaching out of water bottles.

Me thinks ye missed my point.
 
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