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Making the Spyder even more Stable

DragonSpyder

DragonSpyder

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I had an idea for making the Spyder more stable but since I'm not an engineer I thought I would run it by everyone.

What if we attached wheels near the rear axle that extended out kinda like training wheels. They could be say 1/2" above the ground. When you dive into a corner the wheels would significantly reduce the transfer of weight on the front tires and essentially stop the nanny from engaging. I would think this would allow us to carry much more speed in the corner.

Any thoughts?
 
I was hoping for some constructive criticism or ideas on how this could be implemented. Is it that it would look like training wheels that you don't like? These replies sound a lot like comments I get from Harley folks on the Spyder. I still don't see a reason why it won't work. Maybe it would look silly but I don't really care what others think about the looks of my Spyder!
 
I just call them like I see them. Not only would it look bad, it just won't help in the way you think it will. Why is there a need for this? I hit the corners really hard----- 2X the speed limit and have no problems.
 
If you are concerned with body roll, I think some people have had great success with Ken's swaybar. I think you'd be better off investing in that for two reason. 1. It is proven. 2. It looks much better than I could ever imagine training wheels looking.
 
I don't think anyone was trying to bust your :cus:...I laughed out loud when I pictured the Spyder with 2 more wheels - 5 wheels now!....it would be worth trying just to hear what the hard core 2 wheelers would say - just a very funny picture in the mind! :spyder::D
 
I second the swaybar as I have one as well. It's not that I think the Spyder does not corner well now. I was just trying to think of ways to improve.
 
I was not trying to bash you at all. I just personally think that the spyder is stable enough as it is. Plus having "training wheels" would look very silly in my opinion.
 
Here you go.:dontknow:
http://www.mtcvoyager.com

voyager_adv_intro2.jpg
The Voyager Advantage

The Voyager Convertible Kit:

  • Now comes in the new Classic style as well as Standard
  • Gives you 5 minute flexibility from 4 wheels to 2
  • Maintains the value of your motorcycle and doesn't limit resale options
  • Is delivered complete, allowing you to install without losing use of your bike
  • Offers a more comfortable ride with independent suspension
  • Costs half as much as conventional motorcycle trike conversions
  • Reduces front end shake at high speeds
  • Minimizes the effects of cross winds or winding mountain roads while towing a trailer
  • Does not cause significant reduction of gas mileage
  • Offers the flexibility to change from one motorcycle to another
  • Frame bears the tongue weight for more efficient trailering
 
Those are kind of cool - and not too bad of a price.

But can you mount one on the front of a 2 wheeler?:roflblack:
 
Lamonster said:
Here you go.:dontknow:
http://www.mtcvoyager.com

voyager_adv_intro2.jpg
The Voyager Advantage

The Voyager Convertible Kit:

  • Now comes in the new Classic style as well as Standard
  • Gives you 5 minute flexibility from 4 wheels to 2
  • Maintains the value of your motorcycle and doesn't limit resale options
  • Is delivered complete, allowing you to install without losing use of your bike
  • Offers a more comfortable ride with independent suspension
  • Costs half as much as conventional motorcycle trike conversions
  • Reduces front end shake at high speeds
  • Minimizes the effects of cross winds or winding mountain roads while towing a trailer
  • Does not cause significant reduction of gas mileage
  • Offers the flexibility to change from one motorcycle to another
  • Frame bears the tongue weight for more efficient trailering
Click to expand...


There must be another company doing this. I saw a Honda with 2 wheels on either side of the rear wheel. But, the extra 2 wheels were much smaller than the other wheels. And, yes they did look like training wheels.
 
wyliec said:
There must be another company doing this. I saw a Honda with 2 wheels on either side of the rear wheel. But, the extra 2 wheels were much smaller than the other wheels. And, yes they did look like training wheels.
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There were a variety of outrigger wheel setups offered in the aftermarket (and still are a few). A Goldwing here in town a couple of years back had some small ones that deployed automatically as you stopped, and retracted when under way. If you see one in action they'll make you do more double takes than a Spyder. I think those were by the Landing Gear company in New Orleans, that was wiped out by Katrina. If I'm gonna have outrigger wheels, I think I'd like them on a Pulsar.
-Scotty
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Lamonster said:
Here you go.:dontknow:

The Voyager Convertible Kit:
  • Now comes in the new Classic style as well as Standard
  • Gives you 5 minute flexibility from 4 wheels to 2
  • Maintains the value of your motorcycle and doesn't limit resale options
  • Is delivered complete, allowing you to install without losing use of your bike
  • Offers a more comfortable ride with independent suspension
  • Costs half as much as conventional motorcycle trike conversions
  • Reduces front end shake at high speeds
  • Minimizes the effects of cross winds or winding mountain roads while towing a trailer
  • Does not cause significant reduction of gas mileage
  • Offers the flexibility to change from one motorcycle to another
  • Frame bears the tongue weight for more efficient trailering
Click to expand...

I saw this exact setup pulling a trailer on my way home tonight.
 
I don't think the outrigger wheels would help on the Spyder there is no roll on the rear end it is the pivot point for the front end roll so the outriggers would not touch down. I put Ken's sway bar on and the difference is dramatic. There is still a little roll but not compared with the stock bar. I have a Friend who would love the have the outriggers he has a bad leg form his Harley landing on top of it. His heritage is payed off and he is on a very tight fixed income but really misses riding he is always drooling over my Spyder but won't sell his Harley. I have been looking for a used easy-rider for him.:spyder:
 
DragonSpyder said:
Now were talking!
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how about just running a solid axle off the DS 450 on the rear and making the spyder a quad .... A little machining and it would be done , the rear belt sprocket can be easily adapted to the carrier of the DS , the offset is perfect, the pipe then can be split and goes up and out the back just under the seat, when you put the bearings for the.... oops I'm letting the cat out of the bag a little.... stay tuned.
 
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