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:agree: not a flattering report. I also see that the :spyder2: now has a 900 cc engine (:roflblack:) and the person writing the article did not know much about what they were talking about.

Danica Patrick--the new spokesperson for the :spyder2:? I sincerely hope not. 15 miles or less on the :spyder2: and previous "scooter" experience when it comes to motorcycles. That should prove to be a real marketing winner. :yikes:
 
Regurgitated talking points from hanging around the water cooler and not taking the time to file a well informed personal experience report. Welcome to the LA Times.
 
A few obvious things . . . 998 cc V-twin, not a 900 cc, as the article states, but hey, he was only 10% off, right? "Pretty much anyone who can drive a car" Really? The same can be said about a two-wheel motorcylce . . . "Pretty much anyone who can ride a bicylce . . . " But, as any thinking adult would know, both statements are dramatic rather than factual. The 2014 RT will have a 1330cc rather than his 1300cc engine, but, I gues we have already established that facts don't matter much in this review. As for handling in the twisties, Harleys have a hell of a time keeping up with an experienced Spyder owner in the twisties. Sounds like the author is a two-wheel motorcycle enthusiest who's biases are coming through, loud and clear . . . or has never ridden anything other than his bicycle when he delivered the newspaper, before writing for it!
 
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I respectfully disagree with the other comments. I think this was a positive article for the Can-Ams. Many on Spyderlovers.com seem to be obsessed with showing how our bikes are as "good" or better than the two wheel type. That is missing the point. As the article points out the Spyder isn't a two wheel motorcycle but was designed to open up the thrill of open riding to a new population. I am one of those people. I tried two wheel bikes and found that I was never entirely comfortable on them. When the Spyder came out, I was thrilled. Finally a bike with all the fun and the stability and safety I desired. I think we have to be happy that this bike was designed and embrace it for what it is not always try to show it is "just a good" as a traditional two wheel motorcycle. If the Spyder didn't exist, I would never have experience the open road like I have. I love my Spyder for what it is and I am happy for every article that will expand our circle of riders. Now you all can beat up on me.
 
AlEverett said:
I respectfully disagree with the other comments. I think this was a positive article for the Can-Ams. Many on Spyderlovers.com seem to be obsessed with showing how our bikes are as "good" or better than the two wheel type. That is missing the point. As the article points out the Spyder isn't a two wheel motorcycle but was designed to open up the thrill of open riding to a new population. I am one of those people. I tried two wheel bikes and found that I was never entirely comfortable on them. When the Spyder came out, I was thrilled. Finally a bike with all the fun and the stability and safety I desired. I think we have to be happy that this bike was designed and embrace it for what it is not always try to show it is "just a good" as a traditional two wheel motorcycle. If the Spyder didn't exist, I would never have experience the open road like I have. I love my Spyder for what it is and I am happy for every article that will expand our circle of riders. Now you all can beat up on me.
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I don't think anyone will beat up on you for your opinion. Thank you for sharing. You presented your argument well. Each side is right from their own perspectives.
 
I agree with AL. I did not think it was very negative. :f_spider: isn't a 2 wheeler and he said it was fun to ride and had a niche market. It was an article that one could take any way the wind was blowing be for reading the article. Getting defense doesn't have a positive influence on others and in fact gets in the way of all the positive attributes there are to the Spyder. Love my :spyder2: and my wife even loves it more I think. Of course all she does is watch the scenery and wave at other bikers :yikes: ;) Stick to the positive :yes::yes::yes:
 
He seemed to be "dumbing-down" his report; I wonder why? :dontknow:
Reporting should always:
Present the facts accurately
Discuss the pros and cons from a consistent basis that the readers can relate to.
I'm not sure that he hit either mark... :gaah:
 
Jerbear said:
http://www.latimes.com/business/aut...k-1600-gtl-exclusive-20131120,0,6376003.story

Same reviewer.....different motorcycle. Notice any difference in the quality and factuality of reporting?

It's not about 2 or 3 wheels. It's about presentation.
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The article on the BMW has a lot more information about the "luxury" items on the bike. He just talked about the frunk on the Spyder and did not include that the RT version had much more storage and you could add all kinds of bells and whistles on it, or buy the Spyder with all of the luxury items on it. But the article for the Spyder had more words to it. Plus like others have said, at least the Spyder was talked about - so I think he went over his word allowance for the Spyder article.

I need to find the dump truck back up beeper and fix it. I have NEVER heard that thing go off on my Spyder. :popcorn:
 
Interesting..!!

love the fact that we have been moved up to a stepping stone for folks 4 wheeling wanting to go 2 wheeling...guess he's right if you are counting down 4,3,2,1..:roflblack:
So buy a Goldwing before you do the unicyle thingy...
 
In the more educated parts of California, the Los Angeles Times is highly noted for juvenile, pedestrian, and"rainbows-in-the-sky" reporting. The truly unfortunate thing about the LA Times is that they actually do buy newsprint by the ton and ink by the barrel. So, to put the article in perspective, all the kids who read it will be wowed by being able to drive their own Batman Bike!
 
Dan_Ashley said:
In the more educated parts of California, the Los Angeles Times is highly noted for juvenile, pedestrian, and"rainbows-in-the-sky" reporting. The truly unfortunate thing about the LA Times is that they actually do buy newsprint by the ton and ink by the barrel. So, to put the article in perspective, all the kids who read it will be wowed by being able to drive their own Batman Bike!
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...Happily texting, while wearing Google glasses too! :shocked: :yikes:
 
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After reading the Spyder and BMW 1600 reviews, I have come to conclusion that I, too, can write for the LA Times. For the Spyder he did not spend time proofing facts nor take time to present the story in any insightful way - or unique and interesting way. The BMW review... what the heck was that? Wonder how much he was paid for that piece? I'll have to send my resume in.... :-)
 
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