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LH LED Headlight turned 45° in socket after install - any fixes?

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Binto100

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I just installed Lamonster's LED headlights on my '23 F3L. I definitely was not careful somewhere, because I ended up with the LH bulb turned 45 degrees clockwise from TDC. I’d appreciate suggestions on how this can be corrected. I’m sure I have to at least pull off the LH plastic again, Grrrrr, but I’m a little stumped. I’ve also sent a note to Lamonster. All help appreciated. I suppose there’s no quick fix…
Bruce
 

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I just installed Lamonster's LED headlights on my '23 F3L. I definitely was not careful somewhere, because I ended up with the LH bulb turned 45 degrees clockwise from TDC. I’d appreciate suggestions on how this can be corrected. I’m sure I have to at least pull off the LH plastic again, Grrrrr, but I’m a little stumped. I’ve also sent a note to Lamonster. All help appreciated. I suppose there’s no quick fix…
Bruce
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How does it look in the dark facing a wall, fence, garage door????? .... Mike :thumbup:
 
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It looks bad! RH is fine, a horizontal slot, but the LH turned up like a cat eye. I figured it out. One bulb was shipped 45 degrees off the correct index mark but I didn’t think about it at the time. The instructions are kind of cryptic. Anyhow I confirmed w/ the tech at Lamonster so going back together. The right side is off by about 5 degrees. Guess I’ll fix that too. Thanks for your reply. Bruce
 
I installed Lamonster headlight LED’s on my ‘23 F3L. After some fiddlyness, I was able to match the bulb index marks on the LH side to the socket index marks, pic attached. I still need to slightly adjust the RH side. Also attached is a pic close to the garage door (I realize this is not the aiming/adjustment configuration) and I don’t know how to interpret what I’m seeing. I know there’s a problem, I just don’t know how they should look and what correction is needed. I would think the correct view would be a flat horizontal oval only. Maybe these aberrations are immaterial. Information definitely appreciated. Thanks.
Bruce
 

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When aiming headlights for height you are doing it right .... However, I would see what it looks like after it gets dark.... that's what's more important IMHO... Mike
 
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Binto100 said:
I installed Lamonster headlight LED’s on my ‘23 F3L. After some fiddlyness, I was able to match the bulb index marks on the LH side to the socket index marks, pic attached. I still need to slightly adjust the RH side. Also attached is a pic close to the garage door (I realize this is not the aiming/adjustment configuration) and I don’t know how to interpret what I’m seeing. I know there’s a problem, I just don’t know how they should look and what correction is needed. I would think the correct view would be a flat horizontal oval only. Maybe these aberrations are immaterial. Information definitely appreciated. Thanks.
Bruce
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You've got a pattern there that is very close to the flatter, extended, almost rectangle spot with one raised edge that's the 'required/approved' light pattern in Australia & England - the one raised edge you have on the LEFT hand end of each 'light spot' is what's called for here to shine up the curb further than the main aim of the lights, because we drive on the left - only the authorities here would generally expect that the 'light spot' from the Right hand light would be aimed flatter/lower on that side, cos you're not allowed to let any part of your light beam aim up into the eyes of the oncoming drivers - drivers who are ahead and over to our Right just a little! :lecturef_smilie: So here, on low beam, we'd expect to see an almost rectangular 'spot' on the wall/door, with the right beam aimed slightly lower than the left and that raised bit you've got arrows pointing to only really showing on the Left... And from what I can see, your pattern is very close! :rolleyes:

So, AFAICS, you've still got your lights 'clocked' incorrectly; cos unlike us, you don't drive on the correct side of the road over in your part of the World (ie. the LEFT! :p ). I'd think that you'll need to re-clock your lights in order to reverse that pattern pretty much completely on your Right-hand light; and lower the focus on the Left-hand light a tad so that it doesn't have much of a raised end shining up above the 'bright spot' at all... :rolleyes: But I'm not exactly sure what the light aiming & beam pattern requirements are in Montana, except to know that you've got a pattern there that looks pretty close to what is expected here in Oz, where we drive on the other side of the road! :dontknow:
 
Thank you for your very complete reply. I am understanding, kinda. The left feather is legal for you because you’re driving on the LH side of the road and it puts a little light on the curb and I need to be just the opposite. When you say clocked incorrectly you mean the location of the bulb around its 360 degree base. Currently both bulb elements are exactly vertical with the bulb index mark 90 degrees counterclockwise from tdc. So you think they need to be rotated 180 degrees? It’s all still apart so rotating the bulb would not be a huge project. I don’t want to chase my tail if I can avoid it. I’ll give it a try and reply with the results. Again, thank you.
 
Binto100 said:
Thank you for your very complete reply. I am understanding, kinda. The left feather is legal for you because you’re driving on the LH side of the road and it puts a little light on the curb and I need to be just the opposite. When you say clocked incorrectly you mean the location of the bulb around its 360 degree base. Currently both bulb elements are exactly vertical with the bulb index mark 90 degrees counterclockwise from tdc. So you think they need to be rotated 180 degrees? It’s all still apart so rotating the bulb would not be a huge project. I don’t want to chase my tail if I can avoid it. I’ll give it a try and reply with the results. Again, thank you.
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I'm not sure that it'll be 180° :dontknow: . Cos you don't really want to convert that 'left feather' into a 'right droop' or just duplicate it - I suspect it'll be something more like 135°, or possibly something between 45° & 135°... You'll probably need to try a few to get it right. :rolleyes:

You'll likely need to 'dial' the LED light itself on its base somewhat, cos once you try aiming again, at least the Right-hand light 'spot' on the wall/door should probably still have a 'feather', but it'll need to be a 'feather' heading out & up toward the Right, not the Left! :thumbup:

Good Luck! :cheers:
 
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So I rotated the LH bulb 180 degrees and ended up with the attached. Now I just don’t know what the heck. I’m frustrated, but mostly so because Lamonster puts no decent instructions in their packaging that addresses a moron like myself. Also attached is a pic with the arrow pointing to the tab below the LED’s. Should that tab be oriented above the LED’s or below?
 

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Sorry, I can't help with any of that - you guys use some odd lighting systems over there & call things by odd names too... Everyone KNOWS that you plant 'Bulbs' in the garden, and they grow; and you put 'globes' in your lights, and they shine! :rolleyes: :roflblack:

However, I do think you might need to 'clock' the LED something other than 180° - I could be very wrong on this, and I'm sure your best bet would be to CALL Lamonster Garage when they're open and speak to one of the techs there about all this, but in an effort to help you get it sorted sooner....

IIRC, the projector lights you use require their 'light source' to be shining on the opposite side of the 'lens' to where you want the light to appear, so if you've got the LED's 'shining' horizontally either way, then something is wrong - but do those LED's have just a one-sided light source?? Or are there diodes on two, three, or even four sides?? Some even have more than four sides of light emitting diodes!! And can you turn/dial the light emitting part on the base at all, or is it fixed??

Cos you've shown us the LED turned to 45°, and what you've shown/told us in later posts, it sure LOOKS/SOUNDS like you can 'dial' them - in which case, I'd guess that both the LED's are dialed into the light housings almost upside down, and once you flip/re-dial them the light emitting part should be aimed to the LEFT and DOWN - but I hafta stress that I'm guessing here, and the pics you're showing us don't really help all that much - can't really help all that much, cos unless one is there looking at this sorta problem, stepping up close for detail and further away for an over-view, anything from this side if the world won't be much more than maybe a bit of a rough guide to your playing with things until you find whichever way works.... :dontknow:
 
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I did flip the LH bulb 180 degrees, last shot above. But to no avail. I think I’m just going to lick my wounds and buy the Slingmod 360’s and get rid of these Lamonster 180’s. Or just go back to stock. I really appreciate your help and thoughts. Thank you.
 
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johnv
 
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johnv50 said:
I purchased the following lights from Amazon for $49.99 with a 15% discount.

OXILAM 2024 Upgraded H4 9003 LED Bulb, 20000LM 600% Brighter, 1:1 Halogen Size 6500K Xenon White Plug and Play Wireless HB2 LED bulb, Pack of 2

They installed in my 2022 F3T without issue

johnv
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Thanks. The Lamonsters are similar. I can get them installed no problem, but I’m apparently too incompetent to clock or aim them correctly. I wonder how many people checked their aim after they put them in. I bet not many.
 
Binto100 said:
I did flip the LH bulb 180 degrees, last shot above. But to no avail. I think I’m just going to lick my wounds and buy the Slingmod 360’s and get rid of these Lamonster 180’s. Or just go back to stock. I really appreciate your help and thoughts. Thank you.
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I'm not sure it'll be 180° that you need to 'dial' the LED. :dontknow: . Cos you don't really want to convert that 'left feather' into a 'right droop' or just duplicate it - I could be wrong, but I believe the light output of these things is basically shaped more by the reflector &/or lens itself, and not so much by the orientation of the globe, so I suspect that you'll need to 'dial' the globe something more like 135°, or possibly something between 45° & 135°... but because it's clearly not correct now, even if it ever was, then you'll probably need to try a few different 'dialing angles' to get the light output into the right shape. :rolleyes:

But again, I'm pretty sure your best bet to resolve this will be to talk to one of the techs at Lamonster. :thumbup:


Good Luck! :cheers:
 
My irritation level hit red alert so for now I put the oem’s back in. I’m disappointed but will continue to follow; this kind of project is certainly in my wheelhouse. But I did have a wonderment: After led install what % do a rudimentary aim check like I did and what % do not? I have no idea but I’m betting the latter.

The oem’s pointed perfectly after reinstall.
 
Binto100 said:
My irritation level hit red alert so for now I put the oem’s back in. I’m disappointed but will continue to follow; this kind of project is certainly in my wheelhouse. But I did have a wonderment: After led install what % do a rudimentary aim check like I did and what % do not? I have no idea but I’m betting the latter.

The oem’s pointed perfectly after reinstall.
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Did you ever check and see what it looked like in the dark ???? .....Mike :thumbup:
 
I had the same problem with the Lamonster LEDs. I spent some time fiddling with the rotation and found that they worked best with a slight rotation inward - maybe 10 or 15 degrees from vertical. I'll try to take a picture later.
 
Yabbadabbadoo said:
I had the same problem with the Lamonster LEDs. I spent some time fiddling with the rotation and found that they worked best with a slight rotation inward - maybe 10 or 15 degrees from vertical. I'll try to take a picture later.
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A picture is worth a thousand words. I’d really appreciate seeing your setup. I haven’t given up yet but I’m back to oem’s for now. Slingmods sells an led package but they use 360 leds which have 4 sides. I’ve haven’t heard complaints about their LED’s but I have about Lamomster’s, who I will continue to do business with.
 
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