Laser alignments heads up

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

ALIGNMENT ISSUES

Part of the reason is that the suspension geometry, especially on the fist generation RT, is such that the Spyder toes-out when loaded. Each rider is a different weight, and may or may not carry a passenger or cargo. That means even with a Spyder that is perfectly aligned at the factory (few seem to be), on the road it may be something completely different. That is one reason why the Elkas, which raise the ride height, calm things down so well. They toe the Spyder back in.

I'm sorry Scotty but this cannot account for the difference in front tire wear......some are gone at 10,000 or even less and others are getting 30,000 +...The difference is just to large for the above theory to be the reason.......IMHO......Mike :thumbup:

 

[Netminder]

I would rather bet that non-Spyder dealers had them too to keep the dealers from overcharging Spyder owners who need this service. People like Lamont who have their heart in it for the sport/lifestyle.

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:agree: But around here it is mostly dealers who service Spyders, not many people installing after market parts etc. But I agree with you!

 

[gypsy_100]

...Gypsy I beg to differ with you and I think post #42 backs me up on this .....I don't think they were set up correctly at the factory and that's why they are NOT CORRECTLY aligned when you receive them......and I also think BRP has a responsibilty to provide the buyer with a PROPERLY set-up machine when you plunk down your $ 17, 000 to $30,000 +......I'm sorry but I don't feel BRP can wash there hands once the cash is transferred to them. I happen to have two Spyders one has "CRAPPY" alignment and the other is almost perfect.....WHY ????????....No dealer has ever touched either one as far as the front end goes. Don't mis-understand me on this . I LOVE both my Spyders. But right is right and wrong is wrong, if you want to accept less than than CORRECT and make excuses for the company go ahead....You have your views and I have mine .....END OF RANT ......Yea lazers.....:agree: :yes: :yes: :yes: Mike

No need to yell here. If you read my post carefully, what I was trying to explain was why the steering angle sensor needs to be reset if any changes are made to the front alignment. Period. I said the alignment from the factory may be less than perfect (in agreement with all your complaints) but the steering angle sensor was set correctly. That's all. By definition, the steering angle sensor is set correctly if it is set to zero when the bike rolls straight ahead. If a change is made to alignment, now the steering angle sensor must be re-zeroed.

Do I feel less-than-perfect alignment is acceptable from BRP? No. I never said that. Am I making excuses for BRP? No. I never said that. All I said was the steering angle sensor was set correctly even though the alignment may be less than perfect. End of explanation. I think we're actually pretty close to being on the same page here.

 

[srwilli]

Are there any shops in or around San Antonio that are offering Laser alignments?


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[SNOOPY]

Part of the reason is that the suspension geometry, especially on the fist generation RT, is such that the Spyder toes-out when loaded. Each rider is a different weight, and may or may not carry a passenger or cargo. That means even with a Spyder that is perfectly aligned at the factory (few seem to be), on the road it may be something completely different. That is one reason why the Elkas, which raise the ride height, calm things down so well. They toe the Spyder back in.

This makes me wonder if we need the drivers weight on a bike when doing the laser alignment?

And I assume it would even change a little once a passenger is added?

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[Illinois Boy]

I wish someone would get a truck loaded with the laser equipment and BUDS (if possible) and travel around to Spyder owners wanting their's aligned...

I know... the logistics and costs would make that a crazy idea... but it would be nice! Kind-of like pizza-delivery

 

[Jeriatric]

I wish someone would get a truck loaded with the laser equipment and BUDS (if possible) and travel around to Spyder owners wanting their's aligned...

I know... the logistics and costs would make that a crazy idea... but it would be nice! Kind-of like pizza-delivery

Tour America on us.................one Spyder w/trailer, Alignement Kit, Lap Top w/BUDs. :doorag:

 

[MouthPiece]

This his makes me wonder if we need the drivers weight on a bike when doing the laser alignment?

And I assume it would even change a little once a passenger is added?

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That was factored in when they did my alignment.

​Chris

 

[SNOOPY]

That was factored in when they did my alignment.

​Chris

By by having someone on the bike or calculated some other way?

 

[MouthPiece]

By by having someone on the bike or calculated some other way?

I know it wasn't because someone was on it. (although they did put someone on it who was quite heavy) and watched the difference. If I recall correctly, and Mike if you read this please chime in, they calculated or did some factoring of it in.


Chris

 

[SNOOPY]

Thanks :thumbup:


These type things come w experience.

 

[Joe G]

This his makes me wonder if we need the drivers weight on a bike when doing the laser alignment?

And I assume it would even change a little once a passenger is added?

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Especially Sharun. :shocked:

 

[Lamonster]

By by having someone on the bike or calculated some other way?

The guys at Rolo have given us the numbers for a light rider and for a heavy or two up rider. They have done enough of these to know what the numbers need to be. :doorag:

 

[Bob Denman]

Well this is now giving me another reason to sell everything that I own in this Godforsaken State, and move South...:thumbup:
Lamont,
:congrats:, and the best of luck to you in the new endeavor! :thumbup:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

No need to yell here. If you read my post carefully, what I was trying to explain was why the steering angle sensor needs to be reset if any changes are made to the front alignment. Period. I said the alignment from the factory may be less than perfect (in agreement with all your complaints) but the steering angle sensor was set correctly. That's all. By definition, the steering angle sensor is set correctly if it is set to zero when the bike rolls straight ahead. If a change is made to alignment, now the steering angle sensor must be re-zeroed.

Do I feel less-than-perfect alignment is acceptable from BRP? No. I never said that. Am I making excuses for BRP? No. I never said that. All I said was the steering angle sensor was set correctly even though the alignment may be less than perfect. End of explanation. I think we're actually pretty close to being on the same page here.

Could be ? ? ? except for the fact that I'm not " YELLING ".....Yelling is when you print in " ALL " capital letters ....and my Post was not .....I happen to like larger print ....If this bothers you then don't read my Posts........Also my main complaint with BRP is WHY arn't they able to get all the ALIGNMENT factors and computers sensors to co-incide with each other to be correct when you buy the Spyder ......I would really like you to explain that for me and everyone else here........Sincerely ...Mike :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

(Mike just types a bit on the loud side...)

 

[SNOOPY]

The guys at Rolo have given us the numbers for a light rider and for a heavy or two up rider. They have done enough of these to know what the numbers need to be. :doorag:

Okay, thank you for the clarification. That is great having experience back up your numbers!

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

LOUD

(Mike just types a bit on the loud side...)

bob,you don't have to read my posts either.:roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack:...and i also like icons , i bet that bothers some people also.............and guess what.............i don't give a rats a** about that either :yikes: :gaah: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack:......Mike :thumbup:

 

[SNOOPY]

Wow





I MEAN WOW :roflblack:

 

[Joe G]

Wow


I MEAN WOW :roflblack:

:firstplace: