Laser alignments heads up

[MrLooney]

Reset Stearing Sensor

By what I am hearing here, resetting the BUDS is NOT a critical thing? I think I remember only one Spyder had to have the BUDS reset because it was so far out of alignment. Please correct me if I am wrong. And how many Spyders have had alignments done using this new LASER ALIGNMENT technique?

 

[Lamonster]

By what I am hearing here, resetting the BUDS is NOT a critical thing? I think I remember only one Spyder had to have the BUDS reset because it was so far out of alignment. Please correct me if I am wrong. And how many Spyders have had alignments done using this new LASER ALIGNMENT technique?

There's a reason there is a steering angle setting that can be reset so just because it doesn't throw a code right away the steering angle and torque sensor are fighting themselves if it's not set to zero after the alinement. How much of a fight depends on how far off the alinement was to start with. The first one I checked was within .5 degrees from throwing a code, the next one was 1.2 degrees from throwing a code. Do you have to get it done after alinement? I would say no, is it a good idea? I would say yes.

 

[FLAspydergirl]

resetting codes

Lamonster just replied to a post and I agree and I quote

" Do you have to get it done after alinement? I would say no, is it a good idea? I would say yes. "

You probably don’t have to do it at all….but that is your choice. Mike lasered my RS a year ago and I could not even tell you what my steering % is…it has never been reset because we do our own maintenance here.I have had zero issues...
But if it keeps you up at night just go to your local BRP dealer and have them recode...or wait to the next service appointment and they do it free then...( I believe the first thing they do is throw the BUD on your Spyder)
Enough about "buds"...get out there, "ride in comfort" and enjoy the great outdoors...

 

[rnet]

There's a reason there is a steering angle setting that can be reset so just because it doesn't throw a code right away the steering angle and torque sensor are fighting themselves if it's not set to zero after the alinement. How much of a fight depends on how far off the alinement was to start with. The first one I checked was within .5 degrees from throwing a code, the next one was 1.2 degrees from throwing a code. Do you have to get it done after alinement? I would say no, is it a good idea? I would say yes.

I agree with this, however the computer will let you know if you are outside the parameters that are predetermined. Everyone has had there sensors zeroed out when they had the DPS recall and after that when they were new. If the spyder was in alignment at that time and is now off an alignment will bring your sensors closer to zero. Before the lazor alignment came out, no one would have know if the sensors were correct or not. Some have know that I have pioneered spyder alignments and can also adjust if the camber is off and I have yet to throw a code in 4 years. So can it happen, yes but unlikely in my opinion.

 

[Highwayman2013]

I rode 270 or so miles home from SpyderQuest plus to Ft Ticonderoga and Whiteface Mt. So I guess if it was gonna code.... Will get it checked at the dealer if and when I take it in. It's my wife's ride so we will test it this weekend.

 

[SNOOPY]

Wondering how much space this equipment ties up in a shop? Is it relatively portable or does one need a dedicated bay?

 

[bill pitman]

Hey Len......

Lamont, thanks for the heads up on the steering sensor. It was my white RT that the guys started off with at Progressive on Friday morning. No codes yet, not really a dealer kind of person. How long would it take to reset the sensor?

How far are you & Karen from Honesdale,Pa.?
Gretchen's scrap booking tomorrow,so...
I may take a ride up to Palmer's tomorrow,
just because the weather continues to be great,

Bill

 

[MouthPiece]

Just read your post about 30 minutes ago Lamont. Went to my dealer and had the buds run. Mine was at 2.0.

Chris

 

[Lamonster]

Just read your post about 30 minutes ago Lamont. Went to my dealer and had the buds run. Mine was at 2.0.

Chris

What was the charge it you don't mind saying?

 

[MouthPiece]

What was the charge it you don't mind saying?

No charge, Lamont. It took all of ten minutes to perform. I watched. I think Greg at, Seminole Power Sports in Sanford, Florida, was interested so as to be a benefit to him knowledge wise. They really do treat me great.

Chris

 

[MarkLawson]

Wondering how much space this equipment ties up in a shop? Is it relatively portable or does one need a dedicated bay?

It would take a bay only while in use. None of it requires a permanent setup. When using, you'll need about 150" fore to aft and about a foot more than the width of the Spyder left to right, plus the space needed to move around it. Take a look at the video & you'll see how easy it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQpIMSP4n8&feature=youtu.be

 

[hotglue]

No charge, Lamont. It took all of ten minutes to perform. I watched. I think Greg at, Seminole Power Sports in Sanford, Florida, was interested so as to be a benefit to him knowledge wise. They really do treat me great.

Chris

That's GREAT... here it's $50 just to hook up buds... goes up from there....

 

[SNOOPY]

It would take a bay only while in use. None of it requires a permanent setup. When using, you'll need about 150" fore to aft and about a foot more than the width of the Spyder left to right, plus the space needed to move around it. Take a look at the video & you'll see how easy it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQpIMSP4n8&feature=youtu.be

Thanks :thumbup:

 

[NancysToy]

I also highly recommend the BUDS calibration after alignment. This is required even for the BRP procedure. If the steering sensor calibration is off even a degree you may ride just fine for a long while, but someday in a long sweeping curve or in a steady side wind, you can end up in limp mode. The curve or wind can be the straw that broke the camel's back. In addition, if the steering sensors don't match, the VSS try to make unneded corrections, or the Spyder may pull to one side.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

*#*!&*, COMPUTERS

I also highly recommend the BUDS calibration after alignment. This is required even for the BRP procedure. If the steering sensor calibration is off even a degree you may ride just fine for a long while, but someday in a long sweeping curve or in a steady side wind, you can end up in limp mode. The curve or wind can be the straw that broke the camel's back. In addition, if the steering sensors don't match, the VSS try to make unneded corrections, or the Spyder may pull to one side.

So Scotty are you saying if your Spyder gets PERFECTLY ALIGNED the computer may not like it ? ? ? and want to go back to the mis-aligned settings ...WTF...(sorry).....Mike

 

[rnet]

And someday the world will come to an end. :yikes:

 

[SNOOPY]

So Scotty are you saying if your Spyder gets PERFECTLY ALIGNED the computer may not like it ? ? ? and want to go back to the mis-aligned settings ...WTF...(sorry).....Mike

I think what he's saying is that the computer will "think" it's misaligned (eventhough perfect) because it relies on the sensors input.

And never tries to correct when it's in it's limits, but then if you push those limits it throws a code.

 

[MouthPiece]

And someday the world will come to an end. :yikes:

Thanks for putting a smile on my face.

​Chris

 

[retired1]

From my experience, if your tires have started to cup or wear uneven they will continue to wear that way. The best way to fully appreciate a good alignment, is to buy new tires or have them cut down to get rid of the established wear pattern.
JMO

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

SMART COMPUTERS MY AS*

I think what he's saying is that the computer will "think" it's misaligned (eventhough perfect) because it relies on the sensors input.

And never tries to correct when it's in it's limits, but then if you push those limits it throws a code.

I thought COMPUTERS were supposed to be smarter than us mortals ( regarding our Spyders ) to keep from hurting ourselves etc.. From what I gather You and Scotty are saying is the computer is PROGRAMED to (possibly) not accepting PERFECT alignment because the SENSORS are set WRONG ? ? ? or something to this effect........and if you get a PERFECT ALIGNMENT you have to get BUDS to .....UNDO.....the wrong settings that were installed in the system when you purchased the Spyder.................I think there is a real problem here that should addressed by BRP......Like free " BUDS correction " on Spyders that were delivered Mis-aligned from the factory...............and that seems to be " MOST " of them from I am reading ........Mike :thumbup:................................ How's this for a novel idea maybe BRP should set the COMPUTERS & SENSORS to recogonize that the Spyders they are sending out of the FACTORY are not correctly aligned and then YOU wouldn't have to be bothered with this :hun:.....That would be toooooooo Simple .......:agree:....and maybe I'm .:bdh:with this ? ? ?......Mike