Lamonster Approved Wheel Balancers for your Spyder

[Y Rider]

Hoping they come out with a version for 14" wheels for my 2011 RTL. Currently they will only fit on 15" wheels.

 

[bodymanpainter]

Rode a few hundred miles the last couple days with the Centramatic balancers installed. Quite amazing actually. Lots of small vibrations that I had never associated with the wheels and tires are just GONE. The bike almost felt numb at first. MUCH smoother ride. The fenders are dead still going down the road. These are staying on my bike. Major improvement. Very impressed. I never got anything like this from dynabeads or ride on. Also there is NO wobble or twitchiness as starting up from a stop.

Just installed them on the front of my F3-T and can tell some difference in the ride already. I will install the rear next week
after I install a new rear tire. I like them so far!
Toby

 

[donnellpj]

Joan and I rode over 400 miles yesterday and the ride was smooth as glass. Remember I went from thinking my fender mounts were going to break to this. I'm very pleased with the results.

We good stock now too if you've been waiting :doorag:

Lamont, I had some questions about these balancers before I had found your video, so I called Centramatic. I spoke to a gentleman who said that it would be OK to dynamically balance the wheels/tires first as the weights would not play havoc with the wheel balancer's, that they would work in tandem. He did say that using tire beads is a no no, that they would definitely work against the balancers, but dynamic balance initially was okay, especially when putting new tires on.

Thoughts on that? Thanks.

--Pete

 

[Lamonster]

Lamont, I had some questions about these balancers before I had found your video, so I called Centramatic. I spoke to a gentleman who said that it would be OK to dynamically balance the wheels/tires first as the weights would not play havoc with the wheel balancer's, that they would work in tandem. He did say that using tire beads is a no no, that they would definitely work against the balancers, but dynamic balance initially was okay, especially when putting new tires on.

Thoughts on that? Thanks.

--Pete

He deals with BIG trucks and I did the testing on the Spyder. Do what you like but I got the best results with the wheel weights off and that is what I was told from the motorcycle dealer of these units. You can always take them off later I guess.

By the way we have another large order showing up this week and we will be installing them on the front at Spyderfest. The feedback has been great :doorag:

 

[Lamonster]

Hoping they come out with a version for 14" wheels for my 2011 RTL. Currently they will only fit on 15" wheels.

I have a prototype here that may fit. I need to get a Spyder with a 14" wheel in the shop to make sure it works. If it does we should have those soon too.

 

[Peteoz]

Rode a few hundred miles the last couple days with the Centramatic balancers installed. Quite amazing actually. Lots of small vibrations that I had never associated with the wheels and tires are just GONE. The bike almost felt numb at first. MUCH smoother ride. The fenders are dead still going down the road. These are staying on my bike. Major improvement. Very impressed. I never got anything like this from dynabeads or ride on. Also there is NO wobble or twitchiness as starting up from a stop.

Do you have them on front AND back, JC?

Pete

 

[jcthorne]

Do you have them on front AND back, JC?

Pete

I
only have the front ones on so far. The rear one will wait until I take the wheel off for something else.

 

[Lamonster]

We have good stock again :doorag:

 

[Firefly]

I had to bite the bullet and order these..... I was going to wait until at Spyderfest but then thought... why ride all those miles without them on?
Seems I should just have an automatic deduction from my bank account go to Lamonster Garage every month.....

Looing forward to trying these out!

 

[Lamonster]

I had to bite the bullet and order these..... I was going to wait until at Spyderfest but then thought... why ride all those miles without them on?
Seems I should just have an automatic deduction from my bank account go to Lamonster Garage every month.....

Looing forward to trying these out!

I think you got the last full set before we received stock today. And I agree that you'll be better off riding here on a smooth ride. :thumbup::doorag:

 

[Grandpot]

Pay attention when ordering the balancers. At this time they do not fit 14" wheels like my 2011 RTS. Now I have to send them back.

 

[Lamonster]

Pay attention when ordering the balancers. At this time they do not fit 14" wheels like my 2011 RTS. Now I have to send them back.

We did mention that in the video and it's in the description. We added that it only works on 15" wheels to the top of the page after we got your call.

Now the good news. I have the prototype for the 14" wheel in the works and hope to have them in hand next week. If they work as expected they will do the tooling and we'll have the first production run as soon as they're ready. I'll keep you guys posted. :doorag:

 

[Grandpot]

We did mention that in the video and it's in the description. We added that it only works on 15" wheels to the top of the page after we got your call.

Now the good news. I have the prototype for the 14" wheel in the works and hope to have them in hand next week. If they work as expected they will do the tooling and we'll have the first production run as soon as they're ready. I'll keep you guys posted. :doorag:

Great. I left in note in the returned box that an exchange instead of a refund would be fine with me if the 14" units will be ready soon.

I missed the part about the 15" wheels because I'm familiar with this product on other vehicles, so I just didn't watch the video or read everything. I just ordered them. No harm, no foul.

 

[eddieshep999]

I have the following questions:-

If you are having new tyres fitted and you have the Centramatics fitted would you need to get the tyres balanced or could you just fit the tyres and let the Centramatics balance them
therefore there would be no weights to be removed

On the front wheels, the wheel fits against the outer ring when you tourque up the wheel would it crush the ring and cause it damage or is the ring made of a strong material/metal

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On the rear wheel the outer ring is away from the wheel so I don't think it would be an issue

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All the reviews on this thread have reported how they are working on F3's, Has anyone fitted them to an RT and can give some feedback

 

[trikermutha]

You will not have any problem installing the Centramatics. I just put a set on the front wheels on and have no clearance issues. Take wheel off. Remove the weights install centramatics balancer. reinstall wheel torque the nuts. go for a ride.

You will not crush anything when installed

You do not need to balance the wheels after new wheels are installed unless you want too:dontknow:

I do have a 2014 RTL

Down the road I will install the rear balancer

 

[PScott07]

Just my 2 cents on the Wheel the Balancers , I bought the front set took weights off and put the balancers on and go for a ride, up to about 40mph everything is ok, but at about 52mph I get a very bad vibration, ( almost a wobble ) up to 57mph. If I set in that speed range it continues to vibrate, at about 60mph it flattens out, but when I get to 70mph I get what feels like the belt vibration only shaking out my fillings. Before the Balancers I had no problems with the front wheels being balanced. The weights on the tires were 2.75 oz. on one and 3.75 oz on the other, so according lamonster garage the balancers should work up to 6 oz out of balance, I am well with in that range, the other thing is that the tires could be out of round. I don't know enough about tires to say if that is the problem or not, I would think if the tires are out of round I would still have a problem with out the balancers, but I don't know. I'm still waiting for an answer from Lamonster about returning for a refund, but I'm guessing they are now used because they were installed on the spyder, and I get that, and I'm ok with that. I say if you are going to get these you might want to think about it, or if your going wait till spyder fest and have them installed there, so if there is a problem you can get help right there.


Before the trolls start attacking I don't feel Lamonster has done anything wrong, nor am I pointing fingers at any body, I'm just sharing my experience so others can make a choice. It was suggested to add more weights until it balances out but that's a lot of extra work I don't want to do.
I really liked this idea, but it just isn't working for me right now maybe down the road it will. If anybody else has had this problem and fixed it I would like to hear about it.

 

[PMK]

Just my 2 cents on the Wheel the Balancers , I bought the front set took weights off and put the balancers on and go for a ride, up to about 40mph everything is ok, but at about 52mph I get a very bad vibration, ( almost a wobble ) up to 57mph. If I set in that speed range it continues to vibrate, at about 60mph it flattens out, but when I get to 70mph I get what feels like the belt vibration only shaking out my fillings. Before the Balancers I had no problems with the front wheels being balanced. The weights on the tires were 2.75 oz. on one and 3.75 oz on the other, so according lamonster garage the balancers should work up to 6 oz out of balance, I am well with in that range, the other thing is that the tires could be out of round. I don't know enough about tires to say if that is the problem or not, I would think if the tires are out of round I would still have a problem with out the balancers, but I don't know. I'm still waiting for an answer from Lamonster about returning for a refund, but I'm guessing they are now used because they were installed on the spyder, and I get that, and I'm ok with that. I say if you are going to get these you might want to think about it, or if your going wait till spyder fest and have them installed there, so if there is a problem you can get help right there.


Before the trolls start attacking I don't feel Lamonster has done anything wrong, nor am I pointing fingers at any body, I'm just sharing my experience so others can make a choice. It was suggested to add more weights until it balances out but that's a lot of extra work I don't want to do.
I really liked this idea, but it just isn't working for me right now maybe down the road it will. If anybody else has had this problem and fixed it I would like to hear about it.

First off, not trolling. The method of using a viscous balancer can work. What you experienced is the phenomina of the inability of a single plane viscous balancer or single plane located balance weights not having the ability to correct a multi plane imbalance with centerline balancing.

The wider the rotating object, the greater the need to balance at each edge. If the Spyders front wheel were the same 3/4" width as the Cenramatic balance tube, you would have no wobble or precession. The wider rear tire is supported on both ends of the axis and has no steering input or ability to precess easily. This allows the single plane balancer to be more effective, and wobble not be felt. The Cenramatic will create balance and minimize wheel hop.

On account of the front wheels having the ability to not only spin, but also have the spinning wheel rotated about the steering axis, any out of plane imbalance will induce a secondary imbalance side to side or a wobble. If we had the ability to install a 15" Centramatic viscous balancer on the rims flanges, one inboard and one outboard, this may be about as close as possible to correcting imbalance.

When they accomplish a dynamic balance using weights, the machine calculates the amount of weight needed on each flange. Static balance is a matter of adding weight to oppose the heavy spot and is applied along the wheels centerline if possible.

 

[DJFaninTN]

Just my 2 cents on the Wheel the Balancers , I bought the front set took weights off and put the balancers on and go for a ride, up to about 40mph everything is ok, but at about 52mph I get a very bad vibration, ( almost a wobble ) up to 57mph. If I set in that speed range it continues to vibrate, at about 60mph it flattens out, but when I get to 70mph I get what feels like the belt vibration only shaking out my fillings. Before the Balancers I had no problems with the front wheels being balanced. The weights on the tires were 2.75 oz. on one and 3.75 oz on the other, so according lamonster garage the balancers should work up to 6 oz out of balance, I am well with in that range, the other thing is that the tires could be out of round. I don't know enough about tires to say if that is the problem or not, I would think if the tires are out of round I would still have a problem with out the balancers, but I don't know. I'm still waiting for an answer from Lamonster about returning for a refund, but I'm guessing they are now used because they were installed on the spyder, and I get that, and I'm ok with that. I say if you are going to get these you might want to think about it, or if your going wait till spyder fest and have them installed there, so if there is a problem you can get help right there.


Before the trolls start attacking I don't feel Lamonster has done anything wrong, nor am I pointing fingers at any body, I'm just sharing my experience so others can make a choice. It was suggested to add more weights until it balances out but that's a lot of extra work I don't want to do.
I really liked this idea, but it just isn't working for me right now maybe down the road it will. If anybody else has had this problem and fixed it I would like to hear about it.

 

[PScott07]

Ok, I may or may not know what you mean, but does that apply to all spyders, and if it does, why am I having a problem when others are not.
So with the weights on the rim of the tires puts the balance closer to the same width as the tire, and wobble may have been the wrong word, more of tire out of balance bouncing up and down.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

IMBALANCE ISSUE

Ok, I may or may not know what you mean, but does that apply to all spyders, and if it does, why am I having a problem when others are not.
So with the weights on the rim of the tires puts the balance closer to the same width as the tire, and wobble may have been the wrong word, more of tire out of balance bouncing up and down.

If you have that much corrective weight on your wheels and it was done by a dealer :yikes::yikes::yikes:...... friend ..they screwed you over ..... those tires are soo out of spec they are defective and should have been REPLACED UNDER WARRANTY .............. Mike :thumbup: