JM Integratr IV -V- Starcom 1

[Mo Lee]

Been using bluetooth headsets, which work great for intercom, cell phone, and music from cell phone. The problem I'm adding CB and another music source which requires another bluetooth connection and it take forever to get everything turned on in the right order to get it working together. I'm considering going to a wired system and these two seem to have the required features, However I don't know anyone using them. Any feedback good/bad/ugly would help greatly. I want to have intercom, MP3/othersource music, CB from a Walkie Talkie type, and Cell phone into the helmet. I notice the JM headsets are expensive compared to other systems however I do like the way it looks compared to Starcomm.Thanks

 

[NancysToy]

We like our Starcom1 systems. I have been using them for about eight years. We have not used CB with them, though. We didn't have good luck with the FRS/GMRS radios. This appears to be a fault of the walkie-talkie type radios, however, and the lack of a good antenna and ground plane, as well as idiosyncracies in the VOX setups. I would highly recommend that you use the manufacturer's recommended or supplied radio sets, if you go this route. Other than that, we love the integration of the systems, and the noise reduction and VOX work superbly. My GPS talks only into my helmet, and I think the phone does the same. No sense in disturbing the passenger's music. No experience with the JM, but Deb (Dltang) and Brian (BJT) tried both FRS/GMRS and CB, and had limited success. I think they finally sold their systems. You might PM them for more info.

 

[Mo Lee]

Thanks Scotty, I knew I could count on you, after all I heard about Starcom thru one of your posts.

 

[NancysToy]

Thanks Scotty, I knew I could count on you, after all I heard about Starcom thru one of your posts.

Better check the number of inputs you need against what they have available on each model, to make sure they have what you need. That's a lot of inputs you have in mind. I wish I could advise better regarding the CB. That antenna/ground plane thing is a tough nut to crack on an RS...there isn't much metal around the good antenna locations. Also, some folks have had trouble with engine whine on the Spyder with a Starcom...including me. Mine was due to an unconditioned power source to the GPS, but you might need some power and audio cable conditioning, if you go this route. hard to get the cables routed so induction and RFI are not problems...and still keep things hidden.

 

[jrbloise]

Mo Lee J&M Intregratr IV

Mo Lee,

I had the J&M Intregratr IV (mounted in my CanAm tank bag) and used the following devices with it: It has a very good built-in FM Radio and rider to passenger VOX intercom. Options that I used: Midland 40 Channel CB with NOAA weather, Kenwood FRS radio (youhave to use one or the other, can't use both CB and FRS at same time), Radio Shack MP3 player for music, Garmin GPS, and my Cell Phone. The Intregratr IV is well equipped with all the jacks you will need for what you mentioned and then some. It also has a jack for Radar Unit. I enjoyed mine, but opposite from you, I wanted to go with Bluetooth so I sold the entire system and purchased the Sena SMH-10 system. You will have a lot of wiring to do with the Intregratr, but that was no problem for me to do. I did hook up the main power to my Eastern Beaver PC-8 fuse box so as not to interfere with the CanBus.

The J&M Intregratr IV is priced low, but you'll spend tons of money on all the cables, options etc. The J&M headsets are great! Plenty of volume and nice bass response. Overall, the J&M Intregratr IV is a great unit! Go to Web bike world to read a good review.

I bought my entire system used from a fellow SpyderLover member "Heavnbound" for $350.00. Too bad you didn't see my ad on the forums as I wound up selling the entire system with everything needed for only $288.00

If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me.

John

 

[jrbloise]

Mo Lee

I forgot to mention this: The Midland CB #75-822 comes with a "shorty" screw on antenna. But I bought a 4 foot fiberglass ant. with a license plate mounting bracket (with grounding strap) and coax cable and had much better range with that set-up.

Also, I can't remember the name of the company or their website - but if you do a search for "no ground plane antenna" you should find it. It's tuned a certain way to achieve this. Price was not bad either.

John

 

[Mo Lee]

Mo Lee,

I had the J&M Intregratr IV (mounted in my CanAm tank bag) and used the following devices with it: It has a very good built-in FM Radio and rider to passenger VOX intercom. Options that I used: Midland 40 Channel CB with NOAA weather, Kenwood FRS radio (youhave to use one or the other, can't use both CB and FRS at same time), Radio Shack MP3 player for music, Garmin GPS, and my Cell Phone. The Intregratr IV is well equipped with all the jacks you will need for what you mentioned and then some. It also has a jack for Radar Unit. I enjoyed mine, but opposite from you, I wanted to go with Bluetooth so I sold the entire system and purchased the Sena SMH-10 system. You will have a lot of wiring to do with the Intregratr, but that was no problem for me to do. I did hook up the main power to my Eastern Beaver PC-8 fuse box so as not to interfere with the CanBus.

The J&M Intregratr IV is priced low, but you'll spend tons of money on all the cables, options etc. The J&M headsets are great! Plenty of volume and nice bass response. Overall, the J&M Intregratr IV is a great unit! Go to Web bike world to read a good review.

I bought my entire system used from a fellow SpyderLover member "Heavnbound" for $350.00. Too bad you didn't see my ad on the forums as I wound up selling the entire system with everything needed for only $288.00

If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me.

John

Thanks this is the kind of info I was looking for. Not sure yet what route I'm going to take but I do want to make it less complicated.

 

[Mo Lee]

How about motocom st-1, anyone tried it?

 

[Trickie Dick]

Sena SR-10

Hey Mo, you might want to look at one of these. Might be just what you are looking for. http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-accessories/2011/sena-sr10/index.htm
Another link: http://senabluetooth.com/products/sr10.php?tab_menu=overview
This may even link to a non Sena bluetooth headset. :clap:

 

[Mo Lee]

Thanks Dick it does sound interesting, wonder when it will be released. I like the bluetooth hub concept.

 

[Trickie Dick]

Thanks Dick it does sound interesting, wonder when it will be released. I like the bluetooth hub concept.

:thumbup:
I read somewhere the release is in March or so. If you read the ADV article, it mentioned they are working with Sena on development. I would keep an eye there and they will do a review of it sometime soon.

 

[Questions]

Might be New Spyder in Family already have StarCom

We already have 2 starcom Advanced units. Mine on the FJR, along with Zumo 550 with Bluetooth from Zumo to iPhone, her's on her SV650, with iPod on ram mount, which might grow a third wheel .

We have had great success using the FRS radios. I have had some good success with CB using the Midlan model. The FRS radio's and CB radios require seperate connection cabels, since the CB pulls more power.

My question is though, where is the best mounting spot for the Starcom unit on the Spyder? in the Frunk?
There does not seem to be enough room under teh seat to mount it safely. and the frunk offers convient access to the fuse box.

Secondly, should i bring the wired connection back to the seat area for helmet and up to the handle bars? I have to run the PTT button anyway, right?

I'm sure i can leave the FRS radio in the frunk while in use. once it's connected to the Starcom, we never need a long range.

 

[bjt]

It's been a while but dltang and I did have the Integratr and it worked good. Our problem was that the FRS radio talking distance wasn't what we were hoping for so we sold the setup and bought J&M's Spyder CB setup. We never even tried buying a seperate CB and connecting that to the Integratr as we were looking for a more integrated unit with a few less cables. Also, like jrbloise said, J&M will almost break you with the cost of the additional cables and their very expensive but very nice headsets.

 

[Firefly]

Coming soon:

http://www.senabluetooth.com/products/sr10.php?tab_menu=overview

 

[NancysToy]

Where you mount the Starcom1 depends on which model of Spyder. On my first RTS, I used the standard Starcom1 and mounted it between the frame and the panels under the glovebox, since there was insufficient room under the seat. The current RTS has the smaller Starcom1 Advanced, mounted on the panel under the seat, toward the jump-start terminal.

On Nancy's GS, I mounted the Starcom1 in the console, behind the dash cluster. You can't adjust it there, but once it is set, you shouldn't have to. I ran the FRS/GMRS cable and the iPod cable to the frunk, where I put the devices into the pocket in the frunk liner. I bought the bulkhead extension cables, and mounted them in the panel under the seat, toward the front. A second extension cable is then be connected to run to the helmet. PTT-3 switch mounted on the left grip, but you may be able to use the VOX with the right radios.

Never had good success with the FRS/GMRS. I think it was the particular model of radio. The VOX always fought the PTT. It could not be turned off, only the sensitivity maximized. Not sure the location in the frunk is the best...at least not if the Spyder takes the lead. With Nancy following my BMW, it worked OK, but not if she was ahead. My BMW radio was not vertical, though, and was mounted under the rear seat cowl. In short, you may have to play with locations and controls.

 

[Questions]

As a rule of thumb, it's always safer to use PTT for bike to bike, and VOX for rider to passenger.

If I had VOX turned on for Bike-to-bike, she would always hear my bad singing when jaming to XM