I am new to the Spyder. Just bought a 2018 F3T SE6 1330 about 2 months ago new from the dealer. I have been away from biking for 20+ years. Kids grown and out of the house time for me. My question for everyone or anyone is oil usage. I check my my oil on a regular basis. I have noticed that I have to add 100 to 150 ml every couple of weeks. I have been keeping an eye out, there's no leaks anywhere. Is this normal? I should mention that this F3T has turned into my primary mode of transportation, roughly 65 miles a day. Just a curiosity question. I have actually found some great information on this site, so thank you all for your posting. Loving every minute of my new purchase. :yes: :yes:
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Is this much Oil usage normal?
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RICZ
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Here's a video that shows/tells you how to check oil on a 1330 engine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfQ1oA4LIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfQ1oA4LIk
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
To waste less time always check the level AFTER a little or long ride… My 14 RT has never needed any extra oil between oil changes. Mike 
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C'mon Jay (& Bear?), he's pretty new here, no need to jump down his neck about reading the manual! Have you even bothered to ASK if he's done that & if he's using the correct oil check procedure before giving him a hard time about it!?! :lecturef_smilie:
Let's try that last bit again!
Firstly, welcome to the wonderful world of Spyder Ryding, the Forum, & posting here, CoDe3. :congrats:
We aren't all quite so abrupt as that ^^ and generally, like the replies started out, you'll find that most here are usually very helpful - it's just that some things crop up repeatedly & that makes some just a little tetchy about it every now & then! :sour:
So, how are you checking your oil? Using the correct method as per the manual & only checking when it's fully up to temp? :dontknow: Doing your oil checks after a 30 min or longer ryde is a good way of making sure that the oil's warm enough and that the dry sump system has pumped it into all the right places for checking. :thumbup: A quick idle in the driveway or even a 5 minute spin around the block is often not long enough to do all that, and can give you misleading results......
As has been mentioned earlier, it's pretty rare for the 1330 motors to need ANY oil between scheduled changes, so your usage is pretty much unprecedented!! :shocked:
Maybe it's how you ryde that's different.... about those 65 miles you do daily, how do you usually ryde them, fairly gently (even if fast?) or is all your ryding at hot response pace? :dontknow:
Let's try that last bit again!
Firstly, welcome to the wonderful world of Spyder Ryding, the Forum, & posting here, CoDe3. :congrats:
We aren't all quite so abrupt as that ^^ and generally, like the replies started out, you'll find that most here are usually very helpful - it's just that some things crop up repeatedly & that makes some just a little tetchy about it every now & then! :sour:
So, how are you checking your oil? Using the correct method as per the manual & only checking when it's fully up to temp? :dontknow: Doing your oil checks after a 30 min or longer ryde is a good way of making sure that the oil's warm enough and that the dry sump system has pumped it into all the right places for checking. :thumbup: A quick idle in the driveway or even a 5 minute spin around the block is often not long enough to do all that, and can give you misleading results......
As has been mentioned earlier, it's pretty rare for the 1330 motors to need ANY oil between scheduled changes, so your usage is pretty much unprecedented!! :shocked:Maybe it's how you ryde that's different.... about those 65 miles you do daily, how do you usually ryde them, fairly gently (even if fast?) or is all your ryding at hot response pace? :dontknow:
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Thanks Peter. I pay no attention to individuals like that. I am sure it wasn't personal. In any case the answer is yes, I have read the manual and did check exactly the way they suggest for checking oil levels. I also, on a regular basis, check the oil when I fuel up. Which at that time I know I am on a level surface and the oil is well warm enough after the 15 mile trip to the station. I am not balls to walls with my riding, just out to cruise (Ride to work, who's in a hurry to get there!) The F3 has been checked through by the mechanic (one of the few who are trustworthy and up front in my experience). Everything on the Bike is perfect. He suggested it may have been the brand/type of oil. I have since changed to his recommendation and have not seen a loss since. Good point on the riding style; that did slip my mind as a possible cause.
Thanks for telling us that you've got a resolution, that often ends up being missed - people tell us all about the problem & then when it's finally fixed they get so excited & busy with the ryding that we often hafta guess about the final outcome. :dontknow:
Can you tell us which oil it was that you used initially, & what oil did you change to? That 'some brands disappeared, others don't' thing is something that used to be fairly prevalent, but not so much recently.... not in the last few decades, anyway! :shocked: The only real issue we've heard much about with the Spyders & oil has been when people have used oil that's not suitable for engines with wet clutches.... something that usually doesn't end well if it goes on for too long! :sour:
Can you tell us which oil it was that you used initially, & what oil did you change to? That 'some brands disappeared, others don't' thing is something that used to be fairly prevalent, but not so much recently.... not in the last few decades, anyway! :shocked: The only real issue we've heard much about with the Spyders & oil has been when people have used oil that's not suitable for engines with wet clutches.... something that usually doesn't end well if it goes on for too long! :sour:
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JayBros
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My apologies to any and all I offended with my post. I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I also have never been able to understand how one can lay out a whole bunch of hard earned dough for a sophisticated vehicle and not thoroughly read the included operator's guide, even when finances enable one to replace such machines merely on a whim without a second thought.
Docster
New member
I'm the same way. Not only that but while waiting for the purchase to go through I joined and read through much of the forum especially the FAQs and New Spyder Owners which says something like read it 3 times. Motivating owners to read the manual instead of just doing the work for them is the difference between teaching/helping and enabling IMHO.
h0gr1der
New member
Those snippish responses are kind of like hitting the send button on a reply all email when you're mad. It does nobody any good, and your stress level may very well be killing you. I know when I first got mine I had read so much info from so many places that I asked if there was a panel on the RTL that was removable without tools. I was totally fried on information and couldn't process more at the time. I've had some truly outstanding assistance from this forum, and feel like the members are very forgiving of my ignorance for the most part.
ARtraveler
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Wildrice
New member
Welcome to the Forum. Lot's of great information - some not so great - just like any forum. It's always good to have different points of view & after a while you'll become more fond of some than others. It's all cool. I beat my 2015 F3's fairly hard but most are short distance rides. Mine uses no oil. Just curiosity, what brand of oil & viscosity were you using that consumed oil??
Good luck to you,
Darrell
TerryTheSpyderRyder
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And the extra oil ends up in the airbox and injested by the motor, so when he checks the level again he thinks it used the oil! The F3 is tricky to check the oil level, proper procedure must be followed. Good thing they don't actually burn/use il.
All engines use a bit of oil
Mikey
Well-known member
That was posted in 2019, maybe things have changed!!
Dasmoetorhead
Active member
Even with a new engine (mine) with only
10,300 miles & two oil changes, I haven't noticed any oil consumption.
10,300 miles & two oil changes, I haven't noticed any oil consumption.
Dasmoetorhead
Active member
As said before I believe the best way to do it, at least for me is after a ride I pull into the garage put it in neutral and let it idle while I take my gloves off, glases, helmet, jacket, and leather pants. Then I'll clean my helmets face shield, put a couple of dryer sheets inside helmet and put helmet in it's carry bag. Fold the pants up and stow.
I then take the access cover off? and once the fans kick on and then go off ,shut the engine down even if it hadn't been 10 minutes, pull the dipstick wipe it down re-insert all the way in and twist closed then pull again to observe level. Add oil if needed, but probably not. BRP says do this every 1000 miles. I agree with this.
This way I'm ready to ride the next day, but still need to do a quick walk around to do a pre ride inspection.
I then take the access cover off? and once the fans kick on and then go off ,shut the engine down even if it hadn't been 10 minutes, pull the dipstick wipe it down re-insert all the way in and twist closed then pull again to observe level. Add oil if needed, but probably not. BRP says do this every 1000 miles. I agree with this.
This way I'm ready to ride the next day, but still need to do a quick walk around to do a pre ride inspection.
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BajaRon
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True, all Internal Combustion Engines do use some oil. The 998 V-Twin uses a fair amount and needs to be checked.
However, the 1330 uses so little that it is virtually impossible to measure the loss. So while the statement that 'The 1330 ACE engine DOES NOT USE ANY OIL!!!!!' is a technical exaggeration. It is a functional truth.
