Bob Denman
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You have an agenda that you're not admitting to. nojoke
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Is The Opioid Crisis The Government's Responsibility?
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SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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have the punishment fit the crime, if convicted of a drug offense that was part of a felony then real jail time no pussy jail.
if someone were to die from the offense then death, if the individual can't walk and you don't want to break the offenders legs
then fine, you don't come out of jail until the person can walk again. i'm not saying an eye for an eye but harsh punishment may
have people think before they act.
i always say if most people would think before they speak they would probably keep their mouth shut most of the time.
if someone were to die from the offense then death, if the individual can't walk and you don't want to break the offenders legs
then fine, you don't come out of jail until the person can walk again. i'm not saying an eye for an eye but harsh punishment may
have people think before they act.
i always say if most people would think before they speak they would probably keep their mouth shut most of the time.
Orange Spyder Man
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I SAY ....... N O
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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osm, i know many won't agree but i feel people should have true freedom up until they negatively affect others. i don't believe
in paying for someone else's mistakes. if you want that freedom then you have to take responsibility for your actions.
Schwingel9
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What is your definition of true freedom? Thanks!
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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If you want to do drugs fine, but if your drug use hurts others.........
we all know cousin marrying like in islam produces certain birth defects, in pakistan it is common & ~30% of those have
severe problems but it is their country to do as they like, over here we would be paying with our tax dollars to support the
children for the rest of their lives.
everything is choice & consequence but the only way to prevent is for the individual to pay not society.
are any of you aware on judge judy when she berates someone for whatever and screams "you idiot you are going to pay"
she is lying since she knows the show will pay and pays the defendant for appearing. how can anyone learn from this?
back to the point, true freedomw is taking responsibility for your personal actions and accepting it.
Schwingel9
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Freedom is not taking responsibility for your actions, freedoom is the ability to choose the most good. Yes, we have free will, free to choose the good, not free to choose evil without consequences, those consequences are sin or civil punishment. When one becomes addicted to anything they become a slave to that addiction, hurting themselves and society as a whole.The government's job is to ensure we are free to choose the most good, legalizing drugs opens doors to vulnerable people. Drug use does hurt others, imagine the good one can do in their right mind not strung out on drugs. Like it or not we are all in this together, individualism is not so much in the forefront. The crises is not so much drug's, the crisis is an identity crisis and morality crisis.
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And yes, that is some good steel guitar. :bowdown::bowdown:
BoilerAnimal
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I used to listen to that back in my young and dumb days! I had a buddy that could record 8 track tapes.............wish I had all those songs again! That way I could listen to them in my old and dumb days!:yes:
vided
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Joe T.
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Assuming you are addressing me: yes I do.
I am tired of the $$ being spent by taxpayers to support the 'War on Drugs,' the $$ being collected by the drug cartels, the $$ being spent by taxpayers on incarceration, the $$ being spent by taxpayers on rehab, the $$ being spent by taxpayers on hospital bills (we all pay for it via our taxes and/or insurance premiums), the $$ being spent by taxpayers on 'accidental death and injury' of innocent victims due to illegal drugs, and the $$ being spent by taxpayers on local crime enforcement due to drugs.
So, again, YES I DO have an agenda.
I want all of the above STOPPED!! Legalize drugs. Make all Americans accountable for their actions.
It is not my job, or OUR JOB, to help middle class America raise their kids because they fear the kids might have an opportunity to use drugs. It is their PARENTS' responsibility to raise their kids. That seems to be a reasonable, conservative approach, doesn't it?
I am Type II diabetic. It ain't anybody's fault but my own. I take full responsibility for my actions. I have three vices: 1.) Sugar 2.) Salt and 3.) Grease. The first vice is the hardest to kick. But, it ain't your fault or the government's fault.
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Joe T.
Schwingel9
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Will there be more addicts if every drug is readily available and fully legal?
Rob Rodriguez
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I would say no because I believe the drugs are already readily available weather legal or not. The "addicts" are certainly getting them somewhere and it appears they are doing so without issue as long as they have $ to purchase.
Schwingel9
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When is the last time you walked into Wal-Mart and looked at a display of heroin, lsd, and cocaine? Never mind the people who are already addicted or fighting the addiction, what about all people who would tempted to experiment with highly addicting drugs? There will be many, many more addicts, period. The more of those drugs the more addicts there will be.
One of the roles of the government is to protect its people and that includes protecting them from their selves, if need be, especially the vulnerable. In any society there will be those who are vulnerable and need help. Who in their right mind would pupose an idea to make money off of vulnerable people? Well, besides planned parenthood?
Rob Rodriguez
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One of the roles of the government is to protect its people and that includes protecting them from their selves, I don't agree with you on this. Yes, a role of government is to protect its people but I don't agree with the "from themselves part". If a person wants to voluntarily take part in activities that they may need protection from (which will be different for different people......drugs, extreme sports, gambling, unprotected sex, riding without a helmet, etc, etc,) then they have every right to do that and they will have to deal with whatever consequences arise from that.
You can buy any of the drugs you mentioned right outside of Walmart (and clubs, schools, convenience stores, etc....dealers are mobile) in the parking lot without an issue. There is no display with a big yellow price drop smiley face but they are available and for sale. Legal or illegal, sold in Walmart or not sold in Walmart if people want access to drugs for experimentation or use they are going to find a way to do that.
How is this any different than alcohol or tobacco? You can go into a lot of stores and legally purchase alcohol. Alcohol is a mind altering drug that can cause physical problems and health issues to those who use (and sometimes to those who don't use) it. Using your logic everyone in the USA will be an alcoholic and heavy smoker simply because these things are sold in stores
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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WELL...... trayvon martin walked into a store and bought the ingredients for 'shake & bake' a crude homemade meth. the news forgot
to mention that about the night he was killed and that he had trace amounts in his blood.
the drugs are already there and very readily available like that synthetic marijuana that was around last year that was sold at deli's
or online.
Schwingel9
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Thanks for the reply! If drugs were to be legalized and sold openly in the market, they will inevitably become promoted to the masses. When these drugs are used out of their initial context for healing and medical purpose, they become a great evil, an evil that enslaves people, at times instantly. Normally speaking, heroins addiction qualities far outway alcohols. Using drugs that are designed for medical purposes for recreational purposes is an intrinsic evil. Alcohol in itself, used in moderation is not.
Any addiction that consumes one to the point of leading them away from the purpose they were created for actually enslaves them. In order to do the most good we need to start at the margins and work our way out. Drug addicts need help, they are people like you and I. Yes, they made bad choices for what ever reason, but we all have at one time or another. Feeding the monster of addiction is not charitable, it harms human life. Making money off that harm is even worse.
Bob Denman
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:agree::thumbup:
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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I am not promoting drugs in any way but cocaine cures the common cold in small doses but only temporarily it also clears the head
but again only temporarily. coca leaves in south america are chewed for a small pep to keep alert in the same way people drink
coffee. cigarettes on the other hand are flat out poison and contain nicotine which is far more addictive then cocaine.
Me i am just a pervert who likes to ride and doesn't drink, smoke, do any type of drug nor even drink coffee. I would be quite happy
if all drugs were gone but since that will never happen then i would want them legal, regulated & taxed and limited support for those
that abuse them.
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