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Interesting news out of BRP on electrification.

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I'm ok w/"offer" as long as they also offer ICE powered vehicles. The EV grid may be vastly improved in the next (5) years so I'm not saying I wouldn't buy an EV Spyder. Who knows, eh? One of the nice things about a true EV is the torque. You get 100% of the torque from a dead stop (or anywhere else). Great if you ride agressively as I do.
 
Very interesting. The last paragraph in the announcement is loaded with what I refer to as "weasel" words. A lot of woulda, coulda, maybe yes, maybe no. :roflblack:

Like others have said, for me, it depends on the electrical grid. How much more can it take before collapse. How much is it going to cost to fix. Where will the money come from. Are we going to see gas, or electricity price double or quadruple to make our world environmentally safe? And how about realistic pricing and realistic range. $40K (?????) for a vehicle that will take me a couple hundred miles without needing a charge....if I can find a place to do it (????????).

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If they want an early buy in from consumers their marketing department better be planning to issue a map of recharge stations ahead of time. Otherwise I wouldn't consider it due to range or limited routes.
 
Electric vehicles are inevitable and I think the Spyder/Ryker would be the perfect candidate for BRP to start. If done right, total cost of ownership should be a lot less than current offerings due to lower maintenance needs (no $250 dealer oil changes). For BRP, it's success is going to be highly dependent on range and recharge time. I'm somewhat concerned though that BRP is just starting to ramp up on development considering their competitors current and near-future production in two-wheel motorcycles. If I had the pocket change, I'd buy a Zero SR/S or SR/F motorcycle and maybe with a little arm twisting, the HD LiveWire.
 
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:coffee: Let me see it and test ryde it. Then I will give you an opinion. Cost will be a large part of the equation too. :thumbup:
 
If they want an early buy in from consumers their marketing department better be planning to issue a map of recharge stations ahead of time. Otherwise I wouldn't consider it due to range or limited routes.

Now you know in 5 year batteries will be so good you can go a gazillion miles between charges. At least thats whats been promised for the last 20. :roflblack:
 
I am not against electric versions. But what I see as a real problem with the announcement is that BRP is going down the same road that led to the failed BRP Connect system. They are reinventing the technology in house rather than using tech that was developed by much larger companies from billions of dollars in research. BRP has a real 'not invented here' syndrome. GM suffered from this through the 70s and 80s and nearly failed before changing course.

I guess this also means that any lingering hopes we had for a high performance version of the F3 ever coming to market are now down the toilet as well.

All in all a very disappointing press release.
 
I'm a retired electrical technician from a power company and no way in hell will I ever buy an electric car or motorcycle after working 37 years with batteries!!! This is all a bunch of crap this global warming bull ----! All it's doing is filling certain peoples wallets. The vehicles might be good for a couple years but after that look out and open up your wallets for repairs. That's all I've got to say.
 
Back in 2016 they had a prototype electric Spyder. Got 105 miles before recharge. Even with todays technology, I think they would have to remove or utilize the trunk to hold the required batteries to get a workable model for touring.
 
I'm a retired electrical technician from a power company and no way in hell will I ever buy an electric car or motorcycle after working 37 years with batteries!!! This is all a bunch of crap this global warming bull ----! All it's doing is filling certain peoples wallets. The vehicles might be good for a couple years but after that look out and open up your wallets for repairs. That's all I've got to say.

Finally found a kindred heart
 
In Russia, electric cars are almost not sold, (there are a few Tesla dealers in Moscow and St. Petersburg, Jaguar sells 1 model, Audi 1 model, and a little imported from Japan Nissan leaf). The climate in our country is not conducive to this. The network of charging stations is very small, and the prices are higher than similar cars with internal combustion engines. Look at the whole world where 70 percent of electricity comes from coal or oil, what the hell is the ecology?
I have successfully converted my outlander to gas fuel for a long time, there are a lot of gas stations, it is cheaper than gasoline, and it spoils the environment less.
 
Like it or not its coming. This year or next will be when electric vehicles are close to parity on price/usability. You'll see an increasing move by people over to non-ice vehicles, and manufacturers are not going to keep making things that aren't selling. A lot of countries have said no to new ICE vehicle sales from 2030 but in reality the sales will be declining well before that as people will not want to buy something that will have no/low resale value. So what this means for petrol is that the demand will drop. Initially this will be great for those with ICE vehicles as the price at the pumps will go down, but how low will it go before it becomes unprofitable for companies to transport/sell?
 
I specifically looked in Google where your country produces electricity. Yes, you are lucky only 6 percent get from coal. But not in Europe( USA I don't know but I think it's not so good either) where only Norway almost completely generates electricity through renewable energy sources. The rest of the talk about the fact that cars with internal combustion engines will go into the past utopia for many many years. I think even if such a small country as New Zealand to transfer all transport to electric traction with electricity will be difficult.
 
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