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[ravseren]

led bulbs

Not to get into the middle of a heated discussion, but I installed the Xenon Depot bulbs over 6 months ago and have been VERY HAPPY, even after 23 hour rides. No problems, issues or concerns.
The company was very assistive when I had questions.
Seth

 

[Bensonoid]

I did not shoot from the hip. Those were not on Amazon recently when I looked. They do appear to be similar to the ones XenonDepot is selling. My apologies. I stand corrected.

Please let us know how they work.

Now you made me look them up again and I see they are $6.00 less than what I paid. Dammit:banghead:.

 

[Larry rt]

Ok,we all know if you shop around you might find same product cheaper. The main concern are they better than OEM .
Would like feedback regarding the gentleman installing led's for fog lights, was it a major improvement over OEM. Also how do you adjust fog lights vertically?

 

[Mr. Bill]

LEd Fog Lights

Ok,we all know if you shop around you might find same product cheaper. The main concern are they better than OEM .
Would like feedback regarding the gentleman installing led's for fog lights, was it a major improvement over OEM. Also how do you adjust fog lights vertically?

Eh Larry ... Mr. Bill here. I installed the Xenondepot headlights and fog lights just before we headed to Spyderquest in September. Boy what improvement over stock bulbs. Biggest difference was the headlights for distance and brightness but the fog lights were an improvement as well. Lots of that white light where you want it in the fog. I run both fog and headlights all the time when riding. I found no adjustment for the fog light they are pre-set from the factory. There is no excuse for someone to say they did not see you coming with the Xenondepot LED lights.
I went one step further. I installed Clearwater Darla LED running lights as well. Clearwater are a bit pricy but I think worth every cent for the quality, custom mounting brackets, automatic dimmer switch, very good installation instructions and full wiring harness. Biggest thing that I like is the Darla's blinding bright white light. You cannot run full power in traffic ( even in the daylight ). When on the back roads and you turn them up along with the Xenondepot LED lights you can see clear as day forever in the distance. With high beam on at night from the front my Spyder looks like a 747 coming in for a landing on the airstrip, all of the blinding white light up front. On low beam just lots of low whit light where you want it.

Missed you at Spyder Quest, we will hook up in the spring for a ride.

 

[Blickdave]

Mr Bill,

Very interested in your Darla running light idea. Any chance you could post a pic of where you mounted them and on what model Spyder? Will they mount on a F3 and where? Also, how do you adjust the brightness while riding, is there a remote handlebar switch??? Thanks in advance, a picture shot right is worth a thousand
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[Magdave]

:yikes:.....These are real world ..FACTS.. not assumptions or guesses or hearsay...( pay attn. Dave )....The 100 watt halogen bulb ..DID NOT GET DAMAGED ... The plastic that holds the glass bulb...DID NOT GET DAMAGED ....( probably because the engineers designed the plastic to handle the heat from a 100 watt bulb !!!!! ) ....the only part that did get damaged was the OEM plastic plug, that goes into the bulb.....The rear housing was not damaged, the lens inside and outside was not damaged either....I did heat tests and neither got over 135 degree's F ( this was prior to the plug melting )......even with this info,.................... I DO NOT RECOMMEND 100 WATT BULBS......... even with Ceramic plugs ( rated @ 1800 F ) .........Mike :thumbup:

No sense in explaining thermodynamics to you . What engineer told you the are rated for 100w bulbs? None. Do what you want but quit telling people your opinion is fact. There was a post above above the bulbs damaging the housing. I suppose they were lying?

 

[Marker]

My right side went out, decided to change both.
Upgraded to LED's , definitely an improvement.
Installed Xenondepot led's easy installation plug and play. 9005led for 2013 rtl .
Recommend these to anyone that needs to fix or replace headlights.

http://www.xenondepot.com/9005-LED-headlight-kit-p/9005-led-hl.htm
Is this the kit ?

 

[jcthorne]

http://www.xenondepot.com/9005-LED-headlight-kit-p/9005-led-hl.htm
Is this the kit ?

Yes

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

BUMP

BUMP :thumbup:

 

[trikermutha]

Hey how about some picture of these LED lights on at night with distance and width of the light in the picture if possible..:clap:

 

[KX5062]

How about the high beams? opcorn:

 

[jcthorne]

How about the high beams? opcorn:

As the discussion is for the RT, the high and low beams use the same lamp. There is a shutter in the housing that blocks part of the beam for low beam. Its a single element 9005 lamp.

 

[Magdave]

:yikes:.....These are real world ..FACTS.. not assumptions or guesses or hearsay...( pay attn. Dave )....The 100 watt halogen bulb ..DID NOT GET DAMAGED ... The plastic that holds the glass bulb...DID NOT GET DAMAGED ....( probably because the engineers designed the plastic to handle the heat from a 100 watt bulb !!!!! ) ....the only part that did get damaged was the OEM plastic plug, that goes into the bulb.....The rear housing was not damaged, the lens inside and outside was not damaged either....I did heat tests and neither got over 135 degree's F ( this was prior to the plug melting )......even with this info,.................... I DO NOT RECOMMEND 100 WATT BULBS......... even with Ceramic plugs ( rated @ 1800 F ) .........Mike :thumbup:

:banghead: Here we go again you are not an electrical engineer. What is the ampacity of the wiring to the bulb? The housing was not designed for 100W bulbs period. The heat comes from the bulb it self and many people who have tried this in the auto world have ruined their housings. It ranges from plug and housing warpage to delaminating the reflective inside covering. Lay off it Mike and pay attention to what some one who is qualified has to say. Your one time bad experience does not make you an expert. What you say is makes no sense on this subject here Have you ever touch a halogen bulb turned on? Then you have burned your finger. 65 -100 watt 30% increase does the same with the heat generated. Here is a little fact chart to illustrate my point (pay attn. Mike)

Data Sheets: *Room temperature: 22°C to 25°C (Unit:°C)

Halogen lamps	LED lamps
TIME	LAMPS	PAper	TIME	lamps	paper
9:40	27.0	21.8	14:10	27.9	27.0
Lights on		Lights on
9:45	264.2	28.6	14:15	67.2	27.4
10:00	248.8	30.0	14:30	81.8	28.0
10:30	253.3	30.2	15:00	82.0	26.8
11:30	263.2	30.4	16:00	82.2	26.8
Ave.T	257.4	29.0	Ave. T	78.3	27.3
Temperature differential		7.2	Temperature differential		0.3

Synthesis of Results:
The halogen lamps surface temperature (257.4°C) is triple that of LED lamps (78.3°C);

https://blog.gigabase.org/en/contents/10

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

ANND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN ....ETC

:banghead: Here we go again you are not an electrical engineer. What is the ampacity of the wiring to the bulb? The housing was not designed for 100W bulbs period. The heat comes from the bulb it self and many people who have tried this in the auto world have ruined their housings. It ranges from plug and housing warpage to delaminating the reflective inside covering. Lay off it Mike and pay attention to what some one who is qualified has to say. Your one time bad experience does not make you an expert. What you say is makes no sense on this subject here Have you ever touch a halogen bulb turned on? Then you have burned your finger. 65 -100 watt 30% increase does the same with the heat generated. Here is a little fact chart to illustrate my point (pay attn. Mike)

Data Sheets: *Room temperature: 22°C to 25°C (Unit:°C)

Halogen lamps	LED lamps
TIME	LAMPS	PAper	TIME	lamps	paper
9:40	27.0	21.8	14:10	27.9	27.0
Lights on		Lights on
9:45	264.2	28.6	14:15	67.2	27.4
10:00	248.8	30.0	14:30	81.8	28.0
10:30	253.3	30.2	15:00	82.0	26.8
11:30	263.2	30.4	16:00	82.2	26.8
Ave.T	257.4	29.0	Ave. T	78.3	27.3
Temperature differential		7.2	Temperature differential		0.3

Synthesis of Results:
The halogen lamps surface temperature (257.4°C) is triple that of LED lamps (78.3°C);

https://blog.gigabase.org/en/contents/10

........I GUESS you MISSED the part where I said to .......GET the LED's ....and I took my own advice and did just that on Amazon.com for $ 45.00 ( I had a $5.00 credit )......But then it ALWAYS seems to be way more than the topic with you !...........YOU ..JUST..DON'T..LIKE..ME..----- AND .. I'm .. GLAD :yes::yes::yes: :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

 

[Bensonoid]

Going Going Gone

9005 LED headlights are sold out on amazon.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

UNFORTUNATELY ----- YES

9005 LED headlights are sold out on amazon.

:lecturef_smilie:.....You snooze you loose........But I got mine before this occurred , Thanks for posting the LINK........... .... PS that seller still has them for sale .....HOWEVER ...THEY ARE NOT ...9005 size.................Mike :thumbup:.

 

[Mr. Bill]

Mr Bill,

Very interested in your Darla running light idea. Any chance you could post a pic of where you mounted them and on what model Spyder? Will they mount on a F3 and where? Also, how do you adjust the brightness while riding, is there a remote handlebar switch??? Thanks in advance, a picture shot right is worth a thousand
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I am riding a 2013 RT. LTD. The Clearwater Darla LED light kit comes with complete wiring harness including a rheostat ( dial ) dimmer switch and powder coated custom mounting bracket that fits on the fender brace bolts. The lights turn with the wheels to shine where you steer the Spyder to. I mounted the dimmer dial in the left hand speaker grill to that I could adjust it while driving if I need to. The Clearwater wiring diagram shows how to connect the dimmer to the LED lights and the high beam wire on the Spyder. When wired this way when you go to high beam the LED driving lights go to FULL power. When on low beam you can adjust them as you please. When wired this way there is no adjustment on high beam. These lights are rated at over 2000 luminous each. You should not run them on high beam in traffic even in the daylight. I will try to get some photos in the next day or so and post them.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Easy big fella! Tell me these aren't the same ones you installed and tell me I didn't get them at amazon. Most of you people shoot from the hip and know just enough to be dangerous. I am guilty of lowballing the price by 99 cents though, my bad.

Exactly which Amazon product are these? When I looked Amazon had several different brands of 9005 LEDs with copper braid heat sinks. They are not all the same. Some have Cree LEDs and others Phillips LEDs. The Xenon Depot kits have Phillips.

I just spent a bunch of time trying to find information on Cree vs Phillips LEDs. I came up with no meaningful information as to longevity comparisons. In fact there isn't much substantive comparative info between the two at all, except in the arena of home lighting. Interestingly, Xenon Depot shows a comparison of the light pattern of the two, but it's of the bare bulb, which is meaningless. It would be nice to see how the light pattern of the two compare when installed in actual headlamps. I found one where a guy compared Cree vs Phillips H11 bulbs in an Eagle Eye headlamp unit in a BMW. It looked like the only real difference was a sharper cutoff of the top edge of the beam with Cree.

All that prompts me to ask if there is ANY criteria to base a buying decision on more important than price? I'm referring only to braid cooled lamps.

 

[Magdave]

........I GUESS you MISSED the part where I said to .......GET the LED's ....and I took my own advice and did just that on Amazon.com for $ 45.00 ( I had a $5.00 credit )......But then it ALWAYS seems to be way more than the topic with you !...........YOU ..JUST..DON'T..LIKE..ME..----- AND .. I'm .. GLAD :yes::yes::yes: :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:

...and you keep saying only the plug will be damaged if you use 100w bulbs while others have already said the housing got damaged. That is my point and you keep coming back. There are 3 choices for head lights HID ($$$) 65W bulbs or LEDs. I have said that consistently. I know electricity and lighting. You never did answer my question what is the ampacity of your headlight wires though :dontknow:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

ELECTRICAL ENGINEER ?????

...and you keep saying only the plug will be damaged if you use 100w bulbs while others have already said the housing got damaged. That is my point and you keep coming back. There are 3 choice for head lights HID ($$$) 65W bulbs or LEDs. I has said that consistently. I know electricity and lighting. You never did answer my question what is the ampacity of your headlight wires though :dontknow:

:yikes:..." ampacity " ... what the heck is that, ??....sorry I don't speak "Klingon"