I think this proves itself...

[bone crusher]

No time to read all over responses--- but how did this guy cost anyone a dime on medical bills? If he had been wearing a helmet *maybe* he only would have been brain damaged and required 24 hour care for the next 30 years.

There's no good proof either way on this.

It's a personal choice- plain and simple- just like seat belts should be for adults.

Now, if my MC insurance company wants to charge me more because I don't wear a helmet then so be it. This is what they used to do with seat belts.

In this case, the guy was DOA...however, not all head impacts result in death...if they did, insurance companies wouldn't be as concerned...sad to say, but true. The cost to insurance companies is far greater in head impact injuries if the rider is not wearing a helmet...I don't think you want to argue that helmets do not protect the head from serious injury. It's like the seat belt laws...sure, there are exceptions, but the vast majority of the time, they protect/save lives. How about air bags and child seats...same with these too...care to argue that child seats should be a personal decision too?

I know you can't legislate stupidity, but you can make it so the rest of us don't have to pay for these people. Be responsible...period!

Hey, if people want to ride without a helmet, let them...just make them personally responsible for any head injury (if they do survive). This is fair. You are playing the odds and they are not in your favor. Don't ask the house to cover your losses (like my analogy??)

 

[Bob Denman]

I DO like your analogy! :2thumbs:
...but that just ain't gonna happen given the current "climate"...

 

[bone crusher]

I DO like your analogy! :2thumbs:
...but that just ain't gonna happen given the current "climate"...

yeah, sad...eh?

 

[Fire911]

Darwinist

Let'em ride like they want. I believe in natural selection and government intrusion has messed up the whole thing.

I wear mine 99.99999% of the time, but I want to protect the 1/4 million I spent for whats in my head. I have seen my share of accidents and it goes both ways, sometimes the protection Helps and sometimes it doesn't.

I use to skydive, race motorcycles and oh yeah....go into burning buildings....on purpose. Does that mean I can't do those things anymore unless I up my insurance? The fire department, police departments, and Armed Forces will have trouble getting volunteers if the public stops covering things that MAY get you hurt.

It is interesting to hear peoples ideasopcorn:, but most don't look forward enough to see the consequences.:bdh:

 

[bone crusher]

Let'em ride like they want. I believe in natural selection and government intrusion has messed up the whole thing.

I wear mine 99.99999% of the time, but I want to protect the 1/4 million I spent for whats in my head. I have seen my share of accidents and it goes both ways, sometimes the protection Helps and sometimes it doesn't.

I use to skydive, race motorcycles and oh yeah....go into burning buildings....on purpose. Does that mean I can't do those things anymore unless I up my insurance? The fire department, police departments, and Armed Forces will have trouble getting volunteers if the public stops covering things that MAY get you hurt.

It is interesting to hear peoples ideasopcorn:, but most don't look forward enough to see the consequences.:bdh:

Really, can you go into burning buildings without gear on or a mask/helmet? Can you go into battle without any protective gear? Does SWAT voluntarily wear bullet-proof vests?

:shemademe_smilie:

 

[SteveMac]

OK. I am a little confused here. Are you for or against wearing helmets? :roflblack: :spyder: :roflblack:

Really, can you go into burning buildings without gear on or a mask/helmet? Can you go into battle without any protective gear? Does SWAT voluntarily wear bullet-proof vests?

:shemademe_smilie:

 

[BajaRon]

Really, can you go into burning buildings without gear on or a mask/helmet?
:shemademe_smilie:

Well, you can, but if you're working for any fire service I know it will be your last day on the job, if you make it out alive.

If we were found to be operating any vehicle while on duty (even our own) without having the seat belt properly fastened it was an automatic 10% pay reduction for 6 months. That was the 1st offence. I don't know what the penalty for 2nd offence was and I don't know anyone who got it twice.

I hated wearing seat belts and I was pretty put off when they implemented this policy. But it got to be so automatic I do it now and never even realize it. That kind of pay cut was a real motivator.

It's not so much that I thought it was a bad idea to wear my seat belt, I just didn't like someone telling me I had to. But if you don't like someone telling you what to do and how to do it, the fire service is not for you.

Would you like to hear the penalties for not wearing gloves, helmet, etc., on any hazardous assignment?

 

[Bob Denman]

Look at how we're venturing into a much broader arena with this discussion...
Well I don't care! :gaah: They're NOT gonna make me put a condom on when showering!! :roflblack:

 

[spyder3]

"Well I don't care! They're NOT gonna make me put a condom on when showering!!" :hun: :yikes:

 

[SteveMac]

Look at how we're venturing into a much broader arena with this discussion...
Well I don't care! :gaah: They're NOT gonna make me put a condom on when showering!! :roflblack:

TMI Bob. Way way TMI!!

 

[bone crusher]

OK. I am a little confused here. Are you for or against wearing helmets? :roflblack: :spyder: :roflblack:

My point is that certain professionals have to wear helmets due to their work environment...this should be the case with those who ride a motorcycle. However, if people want to literally take such a great risk, and they legally can, let them be 100% responsible for any head injury they sustain...

 

[bone crusher]

"Well I don't care! They're NOT gonna make me put a condom on when showering!!" :hun: :yikes:

Um, I'm a little lost here...why the condom when in the shower? What am I missing? Or better yet, maybe it's good that I miss this...