Highwayman2013
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His bike KLUNKS mine doesn't.
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I like My New F3T but She Needs Some Improvments!
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If your bike don't klunk downshifting then you have the only one in existence - you just don't want to admit there is something wrong with your dream bike.
Read My Lips: Every single auto-shift BRP has ever made has the same exact downshift problems. I've been to 6 factory sponcered demos and every auto bike had the same exact problem.
I'm not trying to distress anyone into selling their bike or not enjoying it - only to make guys aware the shifter is not working correctly. We're all stuck with it so enjoy it - we didn't pay any extra $$ to hear the Bump & Klunk when shifting or the noisy engine.
Also as I said, if you can't feel or hear it then you fine and have nothing to worry about LOL
Bob Denman
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JerryB
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Hi IdleUp,
Re: there is something wrong with your dream bike
IMO this is probably/could be very subjective.
My SE-5 does not seem ( to me ) to exhibit the things that you are describing. But, then I almost always downshift myself ( 99 44/100% of the time ).
It is completely possible that you have more sensitivity to things like this than I/we do. My ex-wife could hear things 'wrong' with a car when I did not hear anything. Rarely, was there anything actually wrong with the car(s).
I really do not care for the CLUNK when she goes into reverse. However, I have learned to lived with it. C'est la vie.
Sort of like the person we married; she/he is not perfect, but we have learned to live/love her/him in spite of the idiosyncrasies. :yes:
Jerry Baumchen
PS) And I am definitely not perfect. :banghead:
Re: there is something wrong with your dream bike
IMO this is probably/could be very subjective.
My SE-5 does not seem ( to me ) to exhibit the things that you are describing. But, then I almost always downshift myself ( 99 44/100% of the time ).
It is completely possible that you have more sensitivity to things like this than I/we do. My ex-wife could hear things 'wrong' with a car when I did not hear anything. Rarely, was there anything actually wrong with the car(s).
I really do not care for the CLUNK when she goes into reverse. However, I have learned to lived with it. C'est la vie.
Sort of like the person we married; she/he is not perfect, but we have learned to live/love her/him in spite of the idiosyncrasies. :yes:
Jerry Baumchen
PS) And I am definitely not perfect. :banghead:
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IdleUp, What I can't figure out is why you are so publicly deriding the F3 for it's inherently terrible transmission and howling engine/drive train and not just quietly selling it before you help to kill your own investment's value? None of us on this forum is going to be able to change your circumstances but it is a sure bet that if you work hard enough to devalue the F3 that you will end up paying for it in the end. IMHO, if I had something that I was so disgusted with, I would delete my posts and quietly sell that turd before anybody is the wiser. There are a bunch of us fools that don't know our you know whats from a hole in the ground and it would be a great time to offload that dog on one of us dummies. As PT Barnum once said: "There's a :joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke::joke: born every minute". Look forward to seeing it on the 4 Sale Forum and much good luck with the sale! If I didn't already own one of these dogs, I would be a player because my momma did raise a fool:banghead: As another poster opined, I am not trying to be sarcastic, just sardonic for whatever that is worth or means? :shemademe_smilie:
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Peteoz
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I agree completely, Jerry.....although I noticed the surging when downshifting on the demo ride and at first on the new F3, it now doesn't bother me at all.....just one of the idiosyncrasies and doesn't appear to do any damage. If the sales guy had mentioned it before the demo, I probably wouldn't have ever worried about it.
i'm glad you mention the heavy clunk into reverse though. That was starting to concern me.....but then, the Victory Vision did that every time you put it into first
.....is there nothing you (meaning "we") can do in your riding style to reduce that reverse clunk? Pete
wyliec
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i'm glad you mention the heavy clunk into reverse though. That was starting to concern me.....but then, the Victory Vision did that every time you put it into first
Pete
That's been there since the 2008GS. There's nothing that can be done, short of rolling it backwards.
Bob Denman
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:agree: with Wylie, and this is the one time where "They all do that.", might just be the proper answer. 
Peteoz
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:agree: with Wylie, and this is the one time where "They all do that.", might just be the proper answer.
Well, you are an influential man, Bob......call BRP and get it fixed immediately....:bowdown:
Thanks guys......good to know it doesn't impact anything......except my teeth
Pete
BoilerAnimal
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When I test drove a new RT SE 6 I was impressed by how smooth the transmission was. I also do the downshifting myself. My 2013 RT-S SE 5 also shifts smoothly if done correctly. I very seldom let it downshift on it's own but I really don't have any complaints as to the way it does.
I think you should get yours checked out at a dealer, if it's as bad as you're describing. Might even consider a different dealer, also.
I think you should get yours checked out at a dealer, if it's as bad as you're describing. Might even consider a different dealer, also.
BoilerAnimal
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Peteoz
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Now I'm worried, Mike......spreading my legs is going to prevent our Sena systems from working?
Bob Denman
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Well, you are an influential man, Bob......call BRP and get it fixed immediately....:bowdown:
Thanks guys......good to know it doesn't impact anything......except my teeth
Pete
:shocked: If you think that they'll listen to me: I've got a bridge for sale down in Brooklyn that I'd like you to take a look at! :roflblack:
Now I'm worried, Mike......spreading my legs is going to prevent our Sena systems from working?
LOL you know after I re-read my post I knew you guys were going to get me on that one!
Seriously, try it increases the noise three fold. It has to be a combination of the clutch and timing chains - I guess.
I know BRP blundered the clutches on the ATV's they were so loud guys had to shim the retaining bolts with washers to get the noise down.
Regards
Mike, I see your keen sense of humor coming through. I went to your website and was amazed at all of the accomplishments you have had in the R/C Helicopter world as well as cinematography. I apologize for getting so hard on you but there are just some things that we can't change. I have an SM6 so could not address any of the transmission issues you are concerned about. I did fire up my 2015 F3-S and got down next to the engine to try and understand where sounds might be coming from that are concerning you so greatly? I have not looked at an exploded view of the Rotax 1330 to get a sense of how it is constructed. However, my engine just does not seem unusually "clattery" or making sounds that would cause any pause? My only other experience with Rotax engines was in a powered parachute I had with a Rotax 912 in an Airwolf and another powered parachute of my instructor. My sense of Rotax engines is that they are generally pretty bullet-proof. In the USAF Predator drones that were operating with 912 engines, the TBO's (To Be Overhauled) times got extended out from 1500, to 2000 and then some were reportedly operating in the 10,000 hour range with continuous maintenance and pretty continuous flying. With track records like that and your own very extensive experiences with rotorcraft engines, I am wondering what sounds are making you feel twitchy about your new F3T? Could it be just sensitivity to new sounds that you are not used to? Anyway, much good luck with your machine and I hope that it grows on you. BTW, very nice video with the Slingshot.
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Bob you're such a nice guy! Hey we're just all living the dream on these bikes and having fun right?
Yeah, I guess I'm a bit picky on noise - after riding that damn quiet Goldwing engine for two decades it ruins you for life. I just don't know why BRP would allow the engine to rattle like that. I have a real easy way to judge noise; If the rattle is louder than the exhaust tone, then its too noisey. I know the Rotex engines are bullet-proof I used their two cylinder engine in the 80's on one of our 18 feet rotor span drones which would pick up 186 lbs. of payload.
Anyhow, a lot of the noise is coning right from the left side cover where ROTAX is embossed on the cover where the clutch is located - looking at the exploded view I really can't see why there would be any noise in that area. I noticed there are 6 hex bolts standing of and I'm wondering if that center hub or pressure plate is rattling. Also if you look just to the right there is a lever of sorts maybe its rattling - sure would be nice if one of those Ace Mechanics would comment on the clutch - what do you think?
Regards
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