Hindle Exhaust questions.....

[matusky]

Ok.... so I thought long and hard about the accessories, and I paid the premium to get the HID lighting through BRP, I picked up the trunk liner, foglights, 12v outlet, touring windshield and an outdoor cover.................

THEN, I made the mistake of getting on YouTube....... and I saw the video the guy did with the Spyder and the stock and Hindle exhaust............ MY GOD MAN! Even though it's not 'street legal' I'd still run it anyways!

I do have a few questions about this though, for those of you lucky enough to have your spyders, AND have the Hindle exhaust on it.............

1. What kind of pricing is everyone getting?
2. Is this something that can be swapped on and off without too much trouble if needed???
3. Any problems with the exhaust 'hot spot' like we've heard so much about on the stock muffler???
4. It sounds good revving it from Idle....... but if you're on the road for a while,...... does it bother you?? is it too loud at highway speeds???

Thanks guys! And happy :spyder: ing!

 

[Way2Fast]

Ok.... so I thought long and hard about the accessories, and I paid the premium to get the HID lighting through BRP, I picked up the trunk liner, foglights, 12v outlet, touring windshield and an outdoor cover.................

THEN, I made the mistake of getting on YouTube....... and I saw the video the guy did with the Spyder and the stock and Hindle exhaust............ MY GOD MAN! Even though it's not 'street legal' I'd still run it anyways!

I do have a few questions about this though, for those of you lucky enough to have your spyders, AND have the Hindle exhaust on it.............

1. What kind of pricing is everyone getting?
2. Is this something that can be swapped on and off without too much trouble if needed???
3. Any problems with the exhaust 'hot spot' like we've heard so much about on the stock muffler???
4. It sounds good revving it from Idle....... but if you're on the road for a while,...... does it bother you?? is it too loud at highway speeds???

Thanks guys! And happy :spyder: ing!

1. I can get you a Can-Am Hindle for 25% off retail....or $450 plus whatever the actual UPS shipping totals. I have quite a few on order...if they ever get here!
2. The exhaust shouldn't take over 30 minutes to install from what I have heard.
3. I doubt if the exhaust will hot spot because it doesn't have a cat. converter inside it as does the factory stock exhaust.
4. with a full helmet the exhaust noise shouldn't be annoying....and without a helmet the wind blowing in your ears would probably drown out the noise. It's not going to sound like a Harley with straights.

Richard

 

[VIspyderman]

Well, after hearing the prototype in San Diego and not sure then if I liked it with the Hindle Pipe... put it on today. Holy Crap! Goes from sounding like a sewing machine to a gattling gun. Luv it. In fact, cranked on it at a buddies place before I went to the door and he tho't I was on some other bike. Had to come out and see for himself. Awesome sound. I highly recommend it to folks who want to stay with "stock BRP" accessessories.

 

[Wijllie]

I think you can swap it easyly but have to order a new exhaust collar ring for the stock one since it seems this get broken with disassembling..

Here are some install pics: http://www.can-amtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4264

 

[SpyderGuy]

1. What kind of pricing is everyone getting?
2. Is this something that can be swapped on and off without too much trouble if needed???
3. Any problems with the exhaust 'hot spot' like we've heard so much about on the stock muffler???
4. It sounds good revving it from Idle....... but if you're on the road for a while,...... does it bother you?? is it too loud at highway speeds???

As far as pricing goes, expect a 10% to 15% discount. 25% is an incredible deal since the margin on the Hindle is less than other accessories. Regardless, it is worth the money.

You can swap to the original exhaust but you need a new gasket for the OEM Exhaust, it isn't used with the Hindle. Install is straight forward and typically takes 20 to 30 minutes. The first time the Hindle is installed it must be seasoned or burned in but running it at idle for 15 minutes and then allowing it to cool for 15 minutes.

No hot spot, no catalytic converter!

It sounds great at all speeds, you won't notice it will riding. Has a minor improvement in HP (4HP per BRP), it also appears to cause the machine to run slightly cooler and get slightly better mileage.

It is by far the single best accessory you can by in my opinion. I love mine, I had it installed last week when it arrived.

 

[twalte]

Way2Fast,

Just sent you PM on the Hindle discount. My unit is stock, but after hearing the YouTube comparison and seeing another after-market exhaust, I find my Spyder to be boring with the stock exhaust.

Less than 50 miles on the Spyder in week 1 and every mile getting more and more enjoyable.

:edit: :bigthumbsup:

 

[jeuchler]

...I doubt if the exhaust will hot spot because it doesn't have a cat. converter inside it as does the factory stock exhaust....

Richard

I'm just wondering--and maybe there's an obvious answer that I'm ignorant of--what'll happen at the next emissions inspection on a Spyder that has the Hindle without a cat?

(Pass? Fail??) :dontknow:

 

[bjt]

For some of us, emissions testing is not required by their state. How many states do require emissions testing?

 

[ld271]

i just put the hindle on my spyder noise not really its all behind you and the sound you hear is wonderful very easy to install again i dont know what all the big deal is about not being street legal most of your harleys and croch rockets are louder than that i did notice that at low speeds the throttle responce was lower than the stock pipe but after 4000rpm hang onnnnn wow holy :edit: this thing gets going. in short if you want a great sound for your spyder get the hindle and dont worry about legal crap there are other motorcycles that are louder i doubt that anyone will be concerned enjoy the new pipe as i am :bigthumbsup:

 

[VIspyderman]

... dont worry about legal crap there are other motorcycles that are louder i doubt that anyone will be concerned enjoy the new pipe as i am :bigthumbsup:

I had an RCMP traffic division motorcycle officer use a decible meter, similar to the one that will be used by law enforcement on Vancouver Island to enforce noise bylaws, and at high revs... registered 109 db's. He said, "Not going to be a problem for you".

 

[spyderrider44]

In response to pass/fail ,it will fail, what i will do is put the stock back on for the test ;D

 

[Way2Fast]

I had the opportunity to speak with a BRP employee who specializes with the Can-Am Spyder and works out of their Palm Bay test facility. The reason why it has taken so long for the Hindel exhausts to come to market is because of problems experienced with the original design. They had to be returned to the manufacturer. It seems that the ECU (computer) could not adjust properly for the free flow design of the first Hindels. Spyder performance suffered. The ones now being sent to dealers have had the problem corrected and will give a true 4-5 hp increase over the stock sewing machine sounding exhaust. The tec cautioned against a possible performance loss by using other aftermarket systems that were not designed to work with the Spyders ECU. The people who bolt on different mufflers might get good sound but at the expense of possible engine damage and performance loss.

Unlike most aftermarket products, the Hindels also come with a support bracket welded to the muffler that prevents any strain on the exhaust pipe. They also feature a heat shield.

Richard

 

[Lamonster]

I had the opportunity to speak with a BRP employee who specializes with the Can-Am Spyder and works out of their Palm Bay test facility. The reason why it has taken so long for the Hindel exhausts to come to market is because of problems experienced with the original design. They had to be returned to the manufacturer. It seems that the ECU (computer) could not adjust properly for the free flow design of the first Hindels. Spyder performance suffered. The ones now being sent to dealers have had the problem corrected and will give a true 4-5 hp increase over the stock sewing machine sounding exhaust. The tec cautioned against a possible performance loss by using other aftermarket systems that were not designed to work with the Spyders ECU. The people who bolt on different mufflers might get good sound but at the expense of possible engine damage and performance loss.

Unlike most aftermarket products, the Hindels also come with a support bracket welded to the muffler that prevents any strain on the exhaust pipe. They also feature a heat shield.

Richard

I hate to say this Richard but that sounds like a lot of hype to me. They are selling the pipe so of course none of the other pipes are any good. What is the engine damage from? If your fuel/air is correct there won't be any engine damage and it sounds like Ken has run the test on that. A welded bracket is no better than a continuous strap hanger and what do you need a heat shield for?

If you like the Hindel get it, I'm sure it's a great pipe but I don't think it's any better than any other aftermarket slip-on.

 

[Rotaxrocket]

I hate to say this Richard but that sounds like a lot of hype to me. They are selling the pipe so of course none of the other pipes are any good. What is the engine damage from? If your fuel/air is correct there won't be any engine damage and it sounds like Ken has run the test on that. A welded bracket is no better than a continuous strap hanger and what to you need a heat shield for?

If you like the Hindel get it, I'm sure it's a great pipe but I don't think it's any better than any other aftermarket slip-on.

Lamonster I'm with you on this. What damage? I would like to see facts on why the other pipes aren't any good. Seems like a lot of hype. What happens when you change altitudes? Is there an O2 sensor on the system? I thought that the computer compensated for air/fuel fluctuations...............Show me the facts............ :doorag: :agree:

 

[Lamonster]

Yes there is a O2 sensor, it's right where the 90 slips on.

 

[Way2Fast]

All I was doing was relaying the info the BRP employee told me. He had one of the first Hindels on one of the bikes there. The exhaust would "pop" at certain rpm's. While this could have been due to a lot of things, he said it was because the computer couldn't compensate for the free flow design....the engine needed some back pressure to perform right. I know for a fact that there is a limitation on how much the ECU is capable of adjusting the fuel flow to compensate for various conditions. Usually it takes a change to the exhaust AND an intake air change before the computer has to be adjusted or the FI injectors changed To my knowledge none of the ECU's used by BRP are reprogramable. All of the bikes (and just about anything else) made today are programed to run lean to meet EPA regulations. I can see why any mods that would cause a leaner condition could do engine damage over the long run.
Then again I can see why the manufacturer would want to recommend only exhausts sold under their label....$$$$$....

As for the heat shields, they could be of benefit to a passenger.

Richard

 

[Wijllie]

I ordered the Hindle and am trilled to get it delivered. But engine damage of other pipes I don't think so. Maybe in a few cases but then the problem would not only be the pipe. I had several motorcycles with different non standard slip-ons for years without problems. So I guess that part they told you is a bit sales talk
But I still want the Hindle because it is truly tested for the Spyder for optimal performance, looks awesome, sounds awesome and has a heat shield

 

[ld271]

somebody tell me if im wrong on this but i tought that when i saw the hindle for the first time i thought it was to be made out of carbin fiber dose anbody remember that or was i thinking of something else??????? :dontknow:

 

[Spyd3r]

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As for the heat shields, they could be of benefit to a passenger.

Richard
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The 90 could be ceramic coated for heat and looks.

 

[Way2Fast]

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As for the heat shields, they could be of benefit to a passenger.

Richard


The 90 could be ceramic coated for heat and looks.

I realize that interior coatings can reduce outside heat and save the chrome from blueing on some bikes....but does it cool the pipe enough to prevent a passengers boot sole from melting if in contact with the pipe ?