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Here's The Real Dirt On Air Filters

... and now that you mention it?

Just who are you that we should take your word on this? :dontknow:

Where is your "independent testing" backing your claims and showing this? :gaah:

So, I see your "real world" testing counts to prove your point but nobody elses does. :shocked:

After 39 years of doing this in the motorcycle industry and holding an ASE Master Tech rating and my Certification from AMI (now Wyo Tech) that I know what I am talking about. Why is it we should all take just your word on this?

Like it or not, I am a somebody in the motorcycle world and have the credentials to back that I know what I am talking about. So, tell me why should somebody take the word of a guy with 8 posts over mine.

With clear proof that major companies like Ford, Chrysler and B&S all also but their faith in these fliters as well. These are major players and would not be using these filters because they don't work.

Oh wait, and please don't even go there that it's because "your not selling anything ether." Because although we sell many things here at ESI anyone who has ever dealt with our company can tell you "our integrity" is not one of the things ever for sale.

Especially for a $70 filter sale.

Show us your data. Or leave it to it's your personal choice on this topic.

But, without data yourself proving this, don't come on here like your some sort of expert on air filters and that your word is the only word to be trusted or believed on this topic just because you don't sell something.

I did my research before I spoke to be sure I had the facts straight, now show us yours. :mad:

MM
guys, u both have opinions, so do i....lets just agree on that and move on...no need for a pissing contest
 
Integrity

... and now that you mention it?

Just who are you that we should take your word on this? :dontknow:

Where is your "independent testing" backing your claims and showing this? :gaah:

So, I see your "real world" testing counts to prove your point but nobody elses does. :shocked:

After 39 years of doing this in the motorcycle industry and holding an ASE Master Tech rating and my Certification from AMI (now Wyo Tech) that I know what I am talking about. Why is it we should all take just your word on this?

Like it or not, I am a somebody in the motorcycle world and have the credentials to back that I know what I am talking about. So, tell me why should somebody take the word of a guy with 8 posts over mine.

With clear proof that major companies like Ford, Chrysler and B&S all also but their faith in these fliters as well. These are major players and would not be using these filters because they don't work.

Oh wait, and please don't even go there that it's because "your not selling anything ether." Because although we sell many things here at ESI anyone who has ever dealt with our company can tell you "our integrity" is not one of the things ever for sale.

Especially for a $70 filter sale.

Show us your data. Or leave it to it's your personal choice on this topic.

But, without data yourself proving this, don't come on here like your some sort of expert on air filters and that your word is the only word to be trusted or believed on this topic just because you don't sell something.

I did my research before I spoke to be sure I had the facts straight, now show us yours. :mad:

MM

I can personally attest to this statement.

P/S- I have the Green filter and had no doubt that it was the best (after personal research) or I wouldn't have bought it.

Metrologist
 
The extra intake drone from a more open filter is nowhere near the extra noise say an aftermarket exhaust makes like the BRP Hindle. So although you can hear a change with a more free flowinf filter it is nothing to be concerned about.

Most bikes (Spyders too ) will need extra fuel added when both an exhaust and filter are used together.

However, many times when only one is being changed alone (just exhaust or filter) many times there is still enough adjustablity in the stock fuel map to allow for this change.

Although each rider and bike is different, I would say there is a very good chance that with just a filter alone you may find you do not need to add an additional fuel management system.

MM
Thanks for Clearing that up. The filter dose look well made.This is on my:spyder: list now for changing:2thumbs:
 
Rule of thumb for mods like this is you can change one or the other ( pipe or air filter) without needing fuel management. If you change both like you have you need to adjust the fuel accordingly. K&N or Green Filter is going to give you the same result, more air with a free flowing pipe causes a lean condition in most cases.

Thanks Lamont.

Evan, will the Juice Box Pro work on my 09, or should I just go with the regular one? :D

Also, do you know if they happened to test with a Green Filter and Hindle? I doubt they would since they make their own exhaust, but you never know. If they had a preset for that it would make it even sweeter. :)
 
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